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    Koltik's Avatar
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    Koltik Morrel
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoralink View Post
    4. Healing feels more like pulling teeth. It's particularly bad as Astrologian. And getting rid of core skills like Aspected Benefic? Really?
    Astro is in a really solid place right now for PvP, I used it for most of my way up to Gold. If you are struggling, you still need to adapt to the changes.

    Lightspeed is no longer something to hold onto. If it's up, use it. Its primary purpose is MP reduction.

    Synastry is on such a short CD, make sure you are moving it between targets as often as you need to. It shouldn't ever be on someone who is no longer taking damage.

    Cards are much much better now. Draw cooldown starts immediately upon you pressing Draw, instead of when you use the card. Don't spam your card, instead sit on your drawn card if you don't have an immediate need for it and use it when you most need it.

    Always be casting bene 1, even if you only heal for 1 hp. This keeps LS spam going. You can LS every minute with the way it works now. It's crazy good.

    Take Bolt and Muse as your actives. For passives, take decreased recast, increased healing potency (or resistance duration against a good tank), and increased MP regen.

    Kite, kite, kite. Astro is incredibly mobile, especially with the Bene 1 into insta cast. Hug the trees, walls, whatever you can.
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    Zoralink's Avatar
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    Zora Link
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Koltik View Post
    -snip-
    Literally everything you said assumes I'm struggling in PvP.

    I can dislike PvP and the absurd ability reductions while still performing perfectly adequately. I can respect the effort though.
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    KingofDunkshire's Avatar
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    Jesse Dunkshire
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoralink View Post
    2.

    It is legitimately the worst PvP system/combat of any MMO I've ever seen.

    I am utterly baffled at people liking it.

    The only reason it's not a 1 is because there's at least a tiny bit of variety with frontlines and the Feast.

    I'm curious if the people who enjoy it have tried other MMOs/their PvP.
    Umm no, Its better than WoWs pvp, Teras, Wildstars, BnS and that's just naming a few. Out of the 9 MMO's I've played FF14 ARR's pvp isn't in the top 5 worst. If you think ARR's pvp is bad, seriously go play WoW where you can be globaled and be stunned/cc for a whole 10 sec.
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    Atreus Auditore
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    At the moment, 5/10. Class balance at present bothers me the most.

    SCH's Broil is insanity.
    DRK has entirely too much self-sustain (Blackest Night is like a mini-Hallowed Ground every 10 seconds wtf)
    The spammability of PLD's stun > silence is almost a meme, fun as it's been.
    WAR barely has ANY sustain and even less utility.

    The DPS might be fine, I don't have enough information it so I won't speak on it.

    I wouldn't mind seeing a little rework to certain combos as well to promote more use of them.
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    Character
    Nord Velt
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    Moogle
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    Paladin Lv 60
    7/10

    On frontlines because it's an instant tag all day/night.
    I play as PLD and the class fulfill the purpose: to be annoying as hell.

    -3 points because unbalance. Dps melee need a way to catch moving target. Healers need more everything.
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    Last edited by Oxino; 06-23-2017 at 12:07 AM.

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    Ceto Lionheart
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    Odin
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Even though it had issues 3.0 pvp was more balanced than the current setup. certain additional skills should be mandatory sprint/purify etc have the devs even bothered testing the game.remove lb its pointless you can burst a target faster than the lb animation(I dont want to lb dead bodies).i would take sprint over lb anytime.
    Pvp used to require skill you could tell good players from the bads now its just 123123 with the occasional ogcd.give every one purify and sprint increase the the additional skills pool and make it different for each class.when you have more feast commands on your hotbar than actual skills you know there's a problem.
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    Yi Sug
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    Ragnarok
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    healing is really , really really bad in pvp , why did they remove the AoE heals?
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    Paca Kuma
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    Chocobo
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by YISUG View Post
    healing is really , really really bad in pvp , why did they remove the AoE heals?
    I wouldn't call healing bad right now, just much more intense since it forces you to pay a lot more attention. I actually really enjoy how healing is now on a WHM. I haven't tried the other jobs though.

    I solo healed a whole alliance to victory before. Mind you the opponents didn't focus us as crazy as they could have, maybe they didn't think we had just 1 healer. My healing that match was close to 600 thousand, which is similar to what my healing is like when I've got other healers with me. So I wasn't pushed too far but there were quite a few fights where we wiped and stuff. And the reason we most likely won was because the other 2 alliances might have just been focusing on each other too much. The match ended when we got a +300 from a tomelith at the end, so even before that massive jump in points we were close to Twin Adders at around 1300 points.

    All I can say is that it takes getting used to, like all jobs in PvP to see how they are. And after I got used to it, I've had amazing fun with it. The match below was one of my most favorite PvP matches of all time in FFXIV.



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    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    Nessa Goddessly
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 96
    1/10. Classes are pretty unbalanced atm. Whm has regens, shields, and an aoe heal. Astro has worse cards (ohhh look 3 spires in a row, but nobody needs tp!) Whms can pump out a lot more heals in frontlines than other classes. When my fiance summoned Eos on sch, she just disappeared again instantly.

    I don't like the new sprint, healing feels more like a chore now. They've dumbed down pvp for the worse. I dont like not being able to customise my secondaries, my ranks mean nothing now, and they gutted warrior so badly.

    Also, the ability that pulls a party member on astro should have a longer reach than your heal range, so you can pull people back into healing range. (I used to sprint to people to get back in range, but that nerf to sprint kinda ruins that strat).

    Also... you cant change classes in frontlines anymore! No healers in the alliance? Too bad. Nobody can switch. PLDs now on healing duty GG
    Eh, atleast in 1v1 duels, healers can't be beaten
    Edit: just found out about broil. Wtf. Mp gets burned fast enough, and it has always been a contest between healers in the feast when it comes to mana management, now you have a healer that drains other healers mp? Wtf?
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 06-23-2017 at 07:12 PM.

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    Adam Zoldyck
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 70
    1/10

    They broke WAR is PvE and then PvP. I miss my HW PvP WAR

    I really need to get into feast now, but frontlines is a joke with these changes. Personal skill at your role adds next to nothing outside of healers in it, as it is more then every just a few people focusing the same target with one of there same botton combos and it is dead in 2 gcds.
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