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  1. #361
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    Alacran's Avatar
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    Maeror Montealvo
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    Sargatanas
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    When i began this game in 1.0 i played as a Roe Hellsgard male. I loved to lore behind them, and really enjoyed not being the typical anime youth hero. He was mature looking, tough and looked like he could handle the world he was stepping in to. The issue i had was at the time many textures seemed to be stretched over his frame, over time this i could less and less ignore it. Once 2.0 began i switched to my current him to my current character a Highlander.

    I say all this to make sure it is understood that i have no real issues with more bestial races in general, however i truly do not feel they belong in this game as playable races, not just because of technical limitations but also due to hoe much of this game is so heavily focused in it's narrative.

    Being completely biased, i can say i have yet to find another mmo with such a focus and the idea of the development team pouring resources in to "something cool to see that i would never use" seems not only wasteful, but necessary.

    Time and again the team has shown us what they feel is their player base, the mog station it's self is evidence of this. People claim they want ferocious races, then go buy pretty new dresses for their cat girls... Population numbers don't lie, even if we do to ourselves. Very obviously the very vocal minority too easily forget the scene a Knights Calling, a moment when our characters shows a measure of emotion i feel can not be done a Lupin face or any for that matter that has a snout, beak, tentacles, or what ever the hell that thing is...


    A smile better suits a hero indeed. There are other games out there that cater to these environments, ever has Final Fantasy had specific look, why come to FF if your looking for something not part of this game direction?
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  2. #362
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    Rysir Arcalane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
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    The dev team was able to make a dragon emote a surprised look so I think they are able to give lupin facial expressions.
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    Oh hey nothing was here

  3. #363
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    Barachim Vandal
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    If the meme landscape of the internet taught me anything, is that animals can have a wide arrange of facial expressions.
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  4. #364
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    Nan Lowell
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    There are other games out there that cater to these environments, ever has Final Fantasy had specific look, why come to FF if your looking for something not part of this game direction?
    Personally, I'm only interested in this game. Would I quit if they came right out and told us "There is no way in hell you're ever getting this" (there'd be no point, honestly)? No, I love this game whether I can play a wolf or if I'm limited to a human-giraffe, a human-potato, a regular human, a human-cat, a human-lizard.. etc

    I read the entirety of your post and I get where you're coming from; Me personally though, I'd have no problem feeling emotion from a more bestial face.. Heck, I don't think it'd be much different than what little the WOL shows now anyway.. Even a wolf could frown or shrug now and again.
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  5. #365
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    Seriously, type Husky meme (yeah I know, not a Wolf, but the best example) into Google, then tell me that animals with a snout can't emote.

    XD

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  6. #366
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    I feel All Saints Wake 2017 was a good compromise to playable Lupin...good job SE.
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  7. #367
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post

    Being completely biased, i can say i have yet to find another mmo with such a focus and the idea of the development team pouring resources in to "something cool to see that i would never use" seems not only wasteful, but necessary.

    Time and again the team has shown us what they feel is their player base, the mog station it's self is evidence of this. People claim they want ferocious races, then go buy pretty new dresses for their cat girls... Population numbers don't lie, even if we do to ourselves. Very obviously the very vocal minority too easily forget the scene a Knights Calling, a moment when our characters shows a measure of emotion i feel can not be done a Lupin face or any for that matter that has a snout, beak, tentacles, or what ever the hell that thing is...
    And the population got their cute races already..a new race should not be only introduced if a huge numbers of player will play them, you should introduce them to give a wider variety for the players and maybe get other people to play the game. There is no sense in creating another human with *insert animal trait* ears into this game because there are already enough of those ingame and it would only change the numbers around. A good looking beastial race might introduce more people to this game since they cant play such a thing right now. (Also if its all about numbers then Roes should not even exist..heck even Au Ra are kinda useless since only a small bit are playing them..)

    Also please there is more ways to show emotion than just the face. You have ears and tails to work with, the posture of the body and more. (Sadness could be shown with hanging ears for example) Also we saw in the event that the lupins can emote just fine. For the rest of the game all our character does is looking a bit sad, surprised, nods and put their hand together. All of that should be quite achievable with such a race.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ayerinn View Post
    I feel All Saints Wake 2017 was a good compromise to playable Lupin...good job SE.
    Well then Gold saucer bunny ears are a good compromise for all those that want to play as Viera.
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  8. #368
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post

    Well then Gold saucer bunny ears are a good compromise for all those that want to play as Viera.
    But what about those with male avatars?
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  9. #369
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
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    Might you show an example of this proposed "good looking" beastmen? Also, it has been often said to be easy, what about some beastmen facial expressions? While i'm no one of import, it may be help to the devs to have something other than vague references.
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  10. #370
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    Might you show an example of this proposed "good looking" beastmen?
    Vanu Vanu, Lupin, Amalj'aa, Kobolds...

    As a fun fact, there's a Yagudo who can smile (and it's adorable) in FFXI.
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