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    Barachim Vandal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    That, i see as the problem, and the most realistic outcome the would happen if more beast like races are introduced (even if that's not how you meant it). Most would only like to fight along side them. Not play as them, and why would you?
    Honestly, the one single reason I'd prefer to fight alongside them, instead of actually playing them, is that I simply wouldn't find the time to play an alt character. I grew really attached to my character, wouldn't dare to Fantasia him, and the amount of time I put into this character, I simply can't see myself put into another character. I don't know how people do it. ='D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barachim View Post
    Honestly, the one single reason I'd prefer to fight alongside them, instead of actually playing them, is that I simply wouldn't find the time to play an alt character. I grew really attached to my character, wouldn't dare to Fantasia him, and the amount of time I put into this character, I simply can't see myself put into another character. I don't know how people do it. ='D
    There are Phial of Fantasia, no need to play an alt for the much asked for and wanted race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    There are Phial of Fantasia, no need to play an alt for the much asked for and wanted race.
    Yes, I know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barachim View Post
    Honestly, the one single reason I'd prefer to fight alongside them, instead of actually playing them, is that I simply wouldn't find the time to play an alt character. I grew really attached to my character, wouldn't dare to Fantasia him, and the amount of time I put into this character, I simply can't see myself put into another character. I don't know how people do it. ='D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    Less if not non-existent facial animations, during many cut scenes this can actively make certain story elements seem absurd due to the interactions being done with characters who have frozen faces, unable to match the expression needed to convey emotions.
    Oh yeah, wouldn't want to lose the impact of our smile/nod every single cutscene. That would be terrible. Oh wait, I forgot the ever important angry face/nod combo as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    Less if not non-existent facial animations, during many cut scenes this can actively make certain story elements seem absurd due to the interactions being done with characters who have frozen faces, unable to match the expression needed to convey emotions.
    Why do they have to have non-existent facial animations? They could totally smile or frown or look confused. And if they hair ears like the Lupin, their ears would add to the emotion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirlia View Post
    Why do they have to have non-existent facial animations? They could totally smile or frown or look confused. And if they hair ears like the Lupin, their ears would add to the emotion.
    Face doesn't look anything like the other races, so they'd have more work... Armors would also be ugly, if not redesigned... Basically, the devs might have to completely redesign 80+% of the armors, and maybe even some mounts...

    Still, Alacran, you got me talking about were-boar. Now, I'm on my way to find a group for some D&D5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe View Post
    Face doesn't look anything like the other races, so they'd have more work... Armors would also be ugly, if not redesigned... Basically, the devs might have to completely redesign 80+% of the armors, and maybe even some mounts...
    All of the different races have unique animations, so I don't think that would be a big deal. Just the facial animations. The Lupin are also bipedal and have humanoid feet (if you look at their model they are wearing perfectly normal sollerets) and most gloves would work with their hands. The only issue would be the headpiece and maybe the body, since Lupin have a lot of floof. However there are unique headpieces for Miqo'te too to accommodate their ears, so I don't think it would be too hard.

    The neck floof would be a problem, but I think it's big enough to not clip with a lot of armor. Plus they could make the amount of floof something you can change in character creation, like hairstyles.
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    Personaly, I dont like how the Lupin look like, something with their faces and midlander hyur body type. I prefer to see Ivalice Viera or a beastman race like Khimari from FFX. If possible, maybe a bird type of beastman would also be a nice addition to FFXIV. Something like the Rito from the Legend of Zelda games? They could even make them the first race that can fly without a mount.

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    Xel'xe Attis
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    Personally, I would like to see Lupin and Viera both come to fruition. The way I perceive everything, the devs like to challenge themselves. While I understand that many arguments of "Ew, furries" or "No, Viera are better" or many other varios types will surface; Both races provide their own challenges to the developers. For the Viera it is the feet and how to integrate them as the designs in other FF titles have them appear with Digitigrade feet somewhat, which provides a challenge and the Halloween event with the werewolf costume helped them experiment a little with that, essentially a shoe without a high-heel, heh. Where as the other design issue they have to address if they were to decide "Let's make the Lupin an option as well, since we did like the design from the HW race designing phaze.", would be how to address the helmets and customization of hair as well as the faces.considering the formula they used in beast tribe dailies for HW, I believe that the Namazu will be the last we see for the expansion of those dailies. Unfortunately as much as I DO want to see the Lupin become a playable race, there is a strong possibility that they will remain untouched and be simply background npcs that see very little spotlight or exploration like we have with the Quiquirn(SP?) whom never got a big beast tribe set of quests or a primal. However, it does feel like a lot of effort to bring a specific race to a certain spot light as it feels they had been doing and then just not do anything with them.The arguement does hold that along with the Viera, the Lupin where a head/tail option considered for the HW playable race. To me I feel that only time will tell and all I can do is hope that both Races get to see the spotlight in some way, playble or not. I would change to either in a heartbeat, but Lupin would be my first pick. Here's Why: While Viera are amazing and Amazonian, even the men, they have a beauty to them, an almost porcelain serenity that makes me love them. However, Lupins are based on Wolves, giving them a feirce, yet still in it's own right Majestic appearance. To me because of various symbolism found in the use of a wolf, via a novella or even by Native-Americans, makes me want to play them more. Wolves tend to represent Loyalty, Instinct, courage and dignity, which makes them seem interesting. Viera also make me think about their animal counterparts when it comes to symbolism: Rabbits usually are used to represent Guile, Quick-thinking, humility, and Strengthening intuition. Between the two I would like to be something that is fierce and loyal, not saying that Viera cannot be that, but to be a Wolf type race to represent it is kind of a cool idea to me. Where as I would have a Viera to represent my love for the aforementioned qualities and at the same time as whatever class I chose, have it be a symbol of Beauty and Intellectual pride. My points may not make sense, hell they even confuse me too, but this is how I feel about the situation. I hope for both Personally.

    P.s. my post was too long to put in one reply sorry lol..
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    Last edited by Xelxe; 06-10-2018 at 08:11 AM.

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