Lupin - make it a playable race!

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

Why do they have to have non-existent facial animations? They could totally smile or frown or look confused. And if they hair ears like the Lupin, their ears would add to the emotion.

Face doesn't look anything like the other races, so they'd have more work... Armors would also be ugly, if not redesigned... Basically, the devs might have to completely redesign 80+% of the armors, and maybe even some mounts...

Still, Alacran, you got me talking about were-boar. Now, I'm on my way to find a group for some D&D5.

[Ootarion]

We already have a massive thread about this, so what made you think we needed another?

And no. The whole story is about humanoid races vs beastmen. The warrior of light belongs to the former. The wolfheads to the latter. There won't ever be beastmen warriors of light and they're not going to change the whole story to add a race that wouldn't be popular anyway.

Okay, I feel I should point out the flaw in this logic, no offense to you but you might not be aware. First of all the game isn't about "Beastmen vs Humanoids" it is about the player character working to protect the world from forces of Darkness, namely the Ascians, it just so happens to also include SOME of the Beast Tribes summoning Primals (since a Primal has a detrimental impact on the world around it) but it isn't ALL beast tribes doing this, the Lupin certainly haven't, not to my knowledge. Furthermore, not all the members of the Beast Tribes that HAVE summoned a Primal, are stupid enough to be like their bretherin and summon one. FURTHERMORE even Non Beast Tribe races have actively Summoned Primals, for example Ysayle Dangoulain (Lady Iceheart) could turn herself into a Primal form (Shiva), and Thordan plus his Knights of the Round ALSO turn themselves into Primals. So do not think for one second that it is a game of Humanoids vs Beastmen when it clearly isn't. Furthermore ALOT of what goes on in A Realm Reborn is you fighting humans, the Garlean Empire for example right up to the Ultima Weapon fight.

PS: Incase you have forgotten, there was an Ixali who had the Power of the Echo. This power is a power that is linked to the Mother Crystal aka Hydaelyn herself. So CLEARLY if SE wanted to, Beastmen could be playable races, as one of the most PIVOTAL powers of the Warrior of Light is useable even by Beastmen. Also Humanoid is not exactly the right word to use in this case, as most if not all the Beast Tribes are bipedal. Furthermore, many members of the Beast Tribes are actually peaceful, friendly even, and you can even ally yourself with them.

[Kryis]

I would like to see the Viera race in the game as another race to choose from.

[Spawnie]

Id rather lupin than some kinda mutated bunny race anyday

[heynowjose]

not before the viera...

[HydroPhydro]

Men vs Beastmen is definitiely a theme of the game that is turned on it's head once we get to heavensward. Having a playable beastman would kinda spoil that since there would be less of a division between the two groups.

[Zumi]

It's possible since we had a hint at the new race in HW with Yugiri in ARR.

[Alleo]

You know they could easily introduce the Lupin (or another beastly race) with a questline. Make it so that you need to have finished ARR with a current race. Then when you are either after the Ultima fight or truly at the end of ARR when you are on the run you can talk to a NPC and start some quest. After some dialogue and scenes a curse will hit you that will transform you into the new race. (Including all the character creation options) This way people will be able to try out the new race without truly changing their character. At the end of the quest you can choose to stay that new race or just turn back to your old character. (Anyway after doing the quest you will just unlock the option to change to this race via fantasia.) This way, the new beastly race will not just suddenly be part of the MSQ and since you already did quite some things for the realm people will just look over your new appearance. This way it would not feel that strange to see them trusting a beastly unknown race. The rest is just up to your imagination. (Like the whole reactions of all the NPCs...since they dont even care if you change race anyway..)

Anyone that is already further down the storyline can also just accept the quest but the first few sentences will be changed to show where someone is.

This will lock out people that want to start the game as the new race so its not a perfect solution but at least this would give us a bit of an ingame reason. (And on top of that they could also give us more character customization options and a free fantasia. So everyone would be happy. And those that dont want to even change in such a "ugly" race for a bit can just ignore the quests.)

[KisaiTenshi]

The teasing is worse, the Lupin in it is really animated. His body movements are good, and he actually seems to show emotion in his face. PLEASE let this be the precursor to Lupin being playable!

That's probably as much as you're going to get. When you get the werewolf costume it actually animates less than the Mi'qote ears and tail do. The tail looks like one solid piece where as the tails of the Mi'qote and Au ra all appear to have two flex points.


Though it's likely possible that the developers could make more "funny ears and tails" type of outfits for other events. But the ears clearly don't work like the Mi'qote ears, or even the Lupin ears do. My guess is that when you wear them, it simply hides the Mi'qote ears and tail, which is why there's no emote linkage. I still think this was a good event none the less.

Also take note of how the feet work in the werewolf outfit. They simply have no "heel" on the footgear.

[Spirlia]

Face doesn't look anything like the other races, so they'd have more work... Armors would also be ugly, if not redesigned... Basically, the devs might have to completely redesign 80+% of the armors, and maybe even some mounts...

All of the different races have unique animations, so I don't think that would be a big deal. Just the facial animations. The Lupin are also bipedal and have humanoid feet (if you look at their model they are wearing perfectly normal sollerets) and most gloves would work with their hands. The only issue would be the headpiece and maybe the body, since Lupin have a lot of floof. However there are unique headpieces for Miqo'te too to accommodate their ears, so I don't think it would be too hard.

The neck floof would be a problem, but I think it's big enough to not clip with a lot of armor. Plus they could make the amount of floof something you can change in character creation, like hairstyles.