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  1. #11
    Player
    ShariusTC's Avatar
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    Shadelia Sunshooter
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    i use it alot in trash pull, just use it when Circle of Scorn on cd, just remember to hit a flash after 2 or 3 total eclise to keep your aggro
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  2. #12
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    Raim's Avatar
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    Character
    Raim Surion
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 100
    I spam it after getting in 2-3 Flash and you won't lose enmity. That being said it should still increase enmity and Yoshi needs to reconsider it. It was never an issue with other tanks.
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  3. #13
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    eagledorf's Avatar
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    Character
    Jugem Mumei
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 37
    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    I spam it after getting in 2-3 Flash and you won't lose enmity. That being said it should still increase enmity and Yoshi needs to reconsider it. It was never an issue with other tanks.
    I swear, they want to do some kind of AoE mechanic that requires tank swapping in the next raid. That's the only possible explanation for Total Eclipse not having an aggro modifier, Ultimatum existing at all, and Quietus giving DRK a THIRD AoE.

    That makes all our skills make sense, but if it turns out to be right it does expose that Yoshi-P is lying through his teeth that they balance the jobs and then balance the encounters in that order.
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  4. #14
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    Mikazuki_Aura's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Mikazuki Aura
    World
    Carbuncle
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Seems to depend on class of other players in the party. If enough AoE nukers are around it's possible to pull a stupid number of mobs at once with Shield Oath, use Flash off the Blind cooldown and essentially spam TE while Blind is up. Some damage contribution is certainly better than the zero from Flash, and bringing down 10-15 mobs at once is still faster than doing them 3 at a time if the DPS classes are AoE-specced.
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  5. #15
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    Wolfas's Avatar
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    Uld'ah
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    Character
    Nicolas Legionhearts
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    I think, flash got less effect now at lvl 70 than before at lvl 60. When you meet really good DPS, it's hard to keep hate with Flash + TE.

    I wonder if they didn't underestimate the hate generated by good DPS. :/

    I never got problem of hate before. It's annoying to begin having some now ^^

  6. #16
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    winsock's Avatar
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    Character
    Chaosgrimm Winsock
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    My experience has been that TE does a fairly decent job of holding threat vs AoE dmg.

    I'd still lead with flash for the blind if anything, but you can get away with using TE the majority of the fight.

    Sometimes DPSers will single target when they should be AoEing or have their auto-attacks constantly building threat on one mob. Your auto attacks and off GCDs can usually overcome this.
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  7. #17
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    Agrieus's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Deltora Vadeen
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    If the dps is actually "good" then they know they'll be needing to use their aggro dumper when needed. No reason not to bring it and use it when needed. So no tank should ever have any hate issues, ESPECIALLY considering that weaving a hate dumper in your rotations is just a simple matter...especially if you want the party to be as efficient as it can be. No reason to stop DPSing just to ensure you've got your aggro in check anymore.
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  8. #18
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    Jukebox12's Avatar
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    Character
    Juke Fm
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 73
    I flash twice and use cos then goring blade on two enemies then total e
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