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  1. #21
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    Belial's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tano View Post
    piety is primary damage attribute for lancer, not (only) str. just read patch notes.
    STR & PTY are listed as Auto Attack modifiers, I don't know how this works for WSs, but if PTY does not affect WS damage then STR is the way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    STR & PTY are listed as Auto Attack modifiers, I don't know how this works for WSs, but if PTY does not affect WS damage then STR is the way to go.

    Im thinking it might but not as much as STR for WS and vice versa for AA
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    Yjrn Eruyt
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    A LS buddy of mine did a little bit of testing, it may not be solid info on the matter but STR even outdamages DEX and PIE in WS and AA for ARC, again that testing was done with ARC! The ARC therefore seems to have three stats pushing his damage, while we remain with two - I think that is quite nice. Seems safe to say that STR > PIE on the LNC too (as STR > DEX/PIE on ARC).

    But again, i was not the one parsing, my LS buddy was. He was parsing the moogle fight, maybe not the top environment to do those tests, but well i thought you might find that interesting.

    Now i'm quite curious about the question where the soft and hardcap for STR lies.
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    I would just like to go on the record that increase my STR beyond the 250 mark has resulted in almost neglegable gains. I think we might have to start looking at the possibilty of there being a fairly stiff soft cap on these stats now.

    Against Ifrit increaing my STR from 250 to 291,

    I gained no increase in AA dmg

    Doomspike Crit went up 20 points

    Nothing else went up noticeably.

    i think we need to consider the fact that Piety may play a stronger role than we think and start experimenting with other stats as well.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    I would just like to go on the record that increase my STR beyond the 250 mark has resulted in almost neglegable gains. I think we might have to start looking at the possibilty of there being a fairly stiff soft cap on these stats now.

    Against Ifrit increaing my STR from 250 to 291,

    I gained no increase in AA dmg

    Doomspike Crit went up 20 points

    Nothing else went up noticeably.

    i think we need to consider the fact that Piety may play a stronger role than we think and start experimenting with other stats as well.
    I hope you're right, I would like to juggle some stats. Haven't done any tests myself though, may do some parsing this evening when I go out to play with MRD.
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    Piety and Strength aren't just auto-attack modifiers, they affect the Lancer ARMS as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tano View Post
    piety is primary damage attribute for lancer, not (only) str. just read patch notes.
    Yes, that what I've seen but now they change into "Bonus1" and "Bonus2". : (

    I would like to know if Pty affect WS too.
    I'm planing to do some test myself too after reaching lv50.
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    i'm wondering how much damage we do to ifrit now, I can do up to 600 but most are 500-560

    My str is 347, pie 235
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebannen View Post
    Strength all the way.
    Bad idea bro, at level 43 I had 10 points in dex and i was still missing most of my hits with the full cobalt gear so i was right on level with gear, if you go full strength and ignore the dex nothing will hit, you hit fairly often so missing a regular auto-attack isn't a big deal but when you can't complete a single combo because your second skill ALWAYS misses, its not fun, not fun at all.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeref View Post
    Bad idea bro, at level 43 I had 10 points in dex and i was still missing most of my hits with the full cobalt gear so i was right on level with gear, if you go full strength and ignore the dex nothing will hit, you hit fairly often so missing a regular auto-attack isn't a big deal but when you can't complete a single combo because your second skill ALWAYS misses, its not fun, not fun at all.
    Why are you wearing level 48 Cobalt gear at 43? I really hope you meant Mythril. Otherwise, DEX would only serve a purpose if you solo heavily. If you're like myself and only group for exp, then you simply don't need it as full party buff is all you really need to make accuracy a non-issue.
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