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    Krausus's Avatar
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    Krausus Dracul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricepudding View Post
    Have fun landing that low accuracy WS combo with Chaos Thrust I think I might put 23 Dex, 22 Pie, cause I feel like Lancer if gonna have quite a bit of trouble with accuracy. At least from what I've seen so far...

    I have yet to miss a chaos thrust acc is not an issue one bit


    I went 23 STR & 22 PIE
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    Carraway Author
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    Still parsing 99-100% accuracy with combos/low-acc WSs in an 8-man party against moogles.
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    Silvano Conri
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    Quote Originally Posted by carraway View Post
    Still parsing 99-100% accuracy with combos/low-acc WSs in an 8-man party against moogles.
    I missed a little bit doing the r40 company leves in Treespeak (+4, so level 49), and whenever I tried Chaos, sometimes only 2 or 3 of the hits would land. But it was nothing disgustingly bad.

    Also, someone let you do Moogle as lancer? I figured we'd fade back into the Archer's shadow, at least on that fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvano View Post
    I missed a little bit doing the r40 company leves in Treespeak (+4, so level 49), and whenever I tried Chaos, sometimes only 2 or 3 of the hits would land. But it was nothing disgustingly bad.

    Also, someone let you do Moogle as lancer? I figured we'd fade back into the Archer's shadow, at least on that fight.

    Still hard to tell what the new flavor will be but right now THM is looking like a powerhouse for damage LNC is still pretty self reliant though so still a good class, Keen Flurry helps a lot for the ridiculously long CDs of Doomspike and Chaos Thrust
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    Kidel Aleron
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    piety is primary damage attribute for lancer, not (only) str. just read patch notes.
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    Last edited by Tano; 12-17-2011 at 01:12 PM.

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    Pandora Vainglory
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tano View Post
    piety is primary damage attribute for lancer, not (only) str. just read patch notes.
    STR & PTY are listed as Auto Attack modifiers, I don't know how this works for WSs, but if PTY does not affect WS damage then STR is the way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    STR & PTY are listed as Auto Attack modifiers, I don't know how this works for WSs, but if PTY does not affect WS damage then STR is the way to go.

    Im thinking it might but not as much as STR for WS and vice versa for AA
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    Belmont Blanc
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    Masamune
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tano View Post
    piety is primary damage attribute for lancer, not (only) str. just read patch notes.
    Yes, that what I've seen but now they change into "Bonus1" and "Bonus2". : (

    I would like to know if Pty affect WS too.
    I'm planing to do some test myself too after reaching lv50.
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    Yjrn Eruyt
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    Shiva
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    Lancer Lv 80
    A LS buddy of mine did a little bit of testing, it may not be solid info on the matter but STR even outdamages DEX and PIE in WS and AA for ARC, again that testing was done with ARC! The ARC therefore seems to have three stats pushing his damage, while we remain with two - I think that is quite nice. Seems safe to say that STR > PIE on the LNC too (as STR > DEX/PIE on ARC).

    But again, i was not the one parsing, my LS buddy was. He was parsing the moogle fight, maybe not the top environment to do those tests, but well i thought you might find that interesting.

    Now i'm quite curious about the question where the soft and hardcap for STR lies.
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    Kiote Corissimo
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    I would just like to go on the record that increase my STR beyond the 250 mark has resulted in almost neglegable gains. I think we might have to start looking at the possibilty of there being a fairly stiff soft cap on these stats now.

    Against Ifrit increaing my STR from 250 to 291,

    I gained no increase in AA dmg

    Doomspike Crit went up 20 points

    Nothing else went up noticeably.

    i think we need to consider the fact that Piety may play a stronger role than we think and start experimenting with other stats as well.
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