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    Leviathan and Titan already summoned?

    The Mythril Eye says this:
    [A Deathless Dilemma]
    A handful of years ago, a Lominsan pirating crew called the Company of Heroes garnered great glory by vanquishing Leviathan and Titan, the primals of the Sahagin and the kobolds respectively. Before the season had turned, however, the two beast tribes were reported to have called forth their gods once more, neither of whom was any worse for the wear. Such is the conundrum confronted by those who seek to smite summoned beings.
    So, Leviathan and Titan were both summoned before Ifrit and have been re-summoned following their death too. What is the huge fuss over Ifrit then? Shouldn't we have been extra worried about Titan and Leviathan to begin with? Or is Limsa Lominsa that awesome it can deal with two Primals without breaking a sweat? Is this why we have NPCs that know how to defeat Primals (i.e. the old Elezen in Gridania for the Ifrit's quests)?

    I don't understand, I think I am missing something in the story.
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    LOL cash shop! SE's way to tell their player how they appreciate them... pull the carrot and empty your pockets $$$
    And to those who support it: you are kicking yourselves. -- We just need to sit back and laugh at people with cash shop items.
    (Marvelous economics IQ test!)

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    They were going to be the next Primals after Ifrit, but the devs have said due to the tsunami and earthquakes in Japan, it was the respectful thing to do to not feature enemies whose iconic attacks are Tsunami and Quake.

    I think it's a nice touch that they at least mentioned them.
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    Yeah maybe its an attempt to bring in continuity with the starting cut scenes? Leviathan was in the LL new character starting video. What was that all about..... Was Titan in anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrick View Post
    They were going to be the next Primals after Ifrit, but the devs have said due to the tsunami and earthquakes in Japan, it was the respectful thing to do to not feature enemies whose iconic attacks are Tsunami and Quake.

    I think it's a nice touch that they at least mentioned them.
    kind of like after 9/11 if they had a summon who attacked you buy crashing a plane into you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irondude View Post
    Yeah maybe its an attempt to bring in continuity with the starting cut scenes? Leviathan was in the LL new character starting video. What was that all about..... Was Titan in anything?
    Titan is in the opening CS with Ifrit

    many speculates that this could be him
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    Last edited by Andrien; 12-15-2011 at 11:57 PM.

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    Titan and Leviathan will be added as bosses later, for reasons already mentioned. I'd expect that after Garuda they might consider it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrick View Post
    They were going to be the next Primals after Ifrit, but the devs have said due to the tsunami and earthquakes in Japan, it was the respectful thing to do to not feature enemies whose iconic attacks are Tsunami and Quake.

    I think it's a nice touch that they at least mentioned them.
    Wait, did they really say that was the reason? OT a little: I was wondering where this Moogle King idea came from and what happen to the 'real' primals were sposed to be fighting. I understand and sympathize with the tragedies in Japan, but I don't really get that because Levi and Titan happen to be water and earth element based (something that they've been since.. forever) should dicate that they couldn't be included in the game right now.. They are just pre-existing fictional characters that have no relation with what happened in Japan right? (Aside from a water/quake attack, which is featured in just about every MMO).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exni View Post
    Wait, did they really say that was the reason? OT a little: I was wondering where this Moogle King idea came from and what happen to the 'real' primals were sposed to be fighting. I understand and sympathize with the tragedies in Japan, but I don't really get that because Levi and Titan happen to be water and earth element based (something that they've been since.. forever) should dicate that they couldn't be included in the game right now.. They are just pre-existing fictional characters that have no relation with what happened in Japan right? (Aside from a water/quake attack, which is featured in just about every MMO).
    Yes, they did.

    http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/2011/10...-is-out-there/

    Gamer Escape: You mentioned adding things the game needs instead of things that already have a foundation. I was surprised to see the next primal fight, instead of something like Titan or Leviathan, is a Moogle? So the game needs evil Moogles?

    Yoshida: We’re not stepping completely away from the foundation because a Garuda battle is coming. It’s in the works. The reason we decided not to go with some stuff that was already out there… I mean because you know in the main story you have the Kobolds and they worship Titan. Why not bring out Titan? Earlier this year in Japan we kind of had a.. big thing happen.. and you release things like that and people start putting them together and say “you’re not thinking”. So we had to think of the rest of the people, maybe even people that weren’t playing the game and say that OK, we’re gonna not do that because we want to respect you guys. So we decided to go away from that even though we had a foundation for that already.
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    Of course they are fictional, but in a country hitted by one of the most potent earthquake in the story, would be bad taste releasing mobs which iconic moves are Tsunami and Earthquake...it's not a matter of fictional or not, it's just common sense, not dissimilar to publish a movie on 11 september one moth after disaster
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    It is very likely to be the reason, as Titan has Dialogue already and cutscenes, which have been datmined (and seen in trailers).

    Levithan however was added way after and has non of the above!

    I expect Garuda first, then maybe shiva, then levi/titan, could even be a developer favour choosing.
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