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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    So your crying here because your ability to tank will be limited depending on what GC you chose, and you picked the wrong one? If the shield is that fundimental to your ability as a tank, well, you have bigger issues then a GC shield.

    We can do what is arguably the toughest battle in the game (ifrit) in our underpants with level 1 weapons, and your balling out other peoples perspective for diversity, over a shield.

    Sorry, but every player I know preferes a tank that makes the shield, not ones in which the shield makes the tank.
    I'd really like to see a video with lvl 1 weapons. The Santa crew used their top weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WiiSam View Post
    I'd really like to see a video with lvl 1 weapons. The Santa crew used their top weapons.
    Doing ifrit with level 1 weapons would be impossible, there simply isn't enough damage. Don't know if you've equipped a weathered weapon lately, but the other night I put a bronze war axe on my character thinking I could substitute it for my ifrits axe while waiting for someone to come out to repair it while I was pling my alt. I was doing 80 damage fully buffed storms paths to the mobs. The level 33 mobs, the level 33 mobs that while I had my ifrits axe equipped I was accidently one shotting with auto attack. The damage you do is so determinate on your weapon it is ridiculous. This brings me to the point of the original topic though, all this bs that SE is pulling with the grand companies is completely absurd. Sure, they will be "balanced" over time, but over time doesn't really matter. I don't want to wait a year for the limsa gear to maybe possibly be relevant. All the stats for each piece of gear in their companies should have been exactly the same. Hows that for balance for you SE? Make the stats on all the gear the same but give them different looks to go with each company. You know how long it took me to think of that idea? 5 seconds. 3 of those seconds was me typing the idea so I don't know why your team of developers couldn't think of it.

    The whole "just wait we will fix it in the future" nonsense is something that you guys need to get out of your head. I am as excited about 2.0 as the next person, but some of things weve had to wait months to get fixed like the DC issue in darkhold completely destroying runs especially when the ogre room has so much crap going on it has such a high DC ratio, and the ifrit loot not being tradeable are ridiculous.
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    There is no "BS" with Grand Companies, you choose whichever GC you like - It's that simple, if an item isn't in all 3 it's not the end of the world, they always release better gear outside of the GC regardless, ontop of the fact there's also Materia ontop of the fact they'll be adding new crafted gear by next update if I recall, you don't choose the GC because of item selection.

    Quote Originally Posted by Req View Post
    The whole "just wait we will fix it in the future" nonsense is something that you guys need to get out of your head. I am as excited about 2.0 as the next person, but some of things weve had to wait months to get fixed like the DC issue in darkhold completely destroying runs especially when the ogre room has so much crap going on it has such a high DC ratio, and the ifrit loot not being tradeable are ridiculous.
    People say "wait" because SE themselves said certain things can't be fixed till new server infrastructure and client.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    People say "wait" because SE themselves said certain things can't be fixed till new server infrastructure and client.
    ....they have already added new items, changed stats on old items, deleted old items, etc etc.

    they could very easily change it so that the items are balanced. But they wont...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LicontAshontear View Post
    ....they have already added new items, changed stats on old items, deleted old items, etc etc.

    they could very easily change it so that the items are balanced. But they wont...
    some items will be better at some companies then they are at others

    if it wasnt this way there would be no incentive for us to ever spread out

    sorry if you dont have the items you specificaly want at yours, but thats life, as time goes on new items will be added and the balance will switch around over and over


    welcome to MMOs and choosing sides

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    some items will be better at some companies then they are at others

    if it wasnt this way there would be no incentive for us to ever spread out

    sorry if you dont have the items you specificaly want at yours, but thats life, as time goes on new items will be added and the balance will switch around over and over


    welcome to MMOs and choosing sides
    well since this thread has gotten grosly off topic, let me explain what i already did on page 1.

    I know that the items will be different, IDC about that. The point is 99% of the items from GC's have a crafted/NM droped equivalent or better, EXCEPT THAT SHIELD. It is the best in the game by a wide margin and can only be obtained from that one GC. That is what I am angry about. Now if there was a comparable shield with block rate of say maybe 140ish with block mitigation of around 80-90 then I would not care because I can go get that and still be pretty good. But in this case I cannot. And they have said nothing about changing stats on current shields, and I highly doubt they would ninja that in. And it will be months before the next patch in which I MIGHT (keyword here is might, notice it is in caps) get a chance at a new shield.

    Please end all pointless flaming and lets get back ontopic now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LicontAshontear View Post
    well since this thread has gotten grosly off topic, let me explain what i already did on page 1.

    I know that the items will be different, IDC about that. The point is 99% of the items from GC's have a crafted/NM droped equivalent or better, EXCEPT THAT SHIELD. It is the best in the game by a wide margin and can only be obtained from that one GC. That is what I am angry about. Now if there was a comparable shield with block rate of say maybe 140ish with block mitigation of around 80-90 then I would not care because I can go get that and still be pretty good. But in this case I cannot. And they have said nothing about changing stats on current shields, and I highly doubt they would ninja that in. And it will be months before the next patch in which I MIGHT (keyword here is might, notice it is in caps) get a chance at a new shield.

    Please end all pointless flaming and lets get back ontopic now.
    im going to take a moment and point out you are raging over a game
    its a game, you know the thing we play to entertain us
    its not real life, its not important, its not the end of the world

    its 1 piece of gear and i think youll be ok living without it

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    some items will be better at some companies then they are at others

    if it wasnt this way there would be no incentive for us to ever spread out

    sorry if you dont have the items you specificaly want at yours, but thats life, as time goes on new items will be added and the balance will switch around over and over


    welcome to MMOs and choosing sides
    The incentive should be choosing the company you want to join, which is what Yoshi told us to do because it wasn't supposed to be advantageous to join a certain company over any other. It is unacceptable that uldah gets pants that give 9 attack power, in which the only item thats better for a DD is the mercenary's slops which is a pain in the ass to get I might add.

    Sure, they have different stats for different types of clases, I just don't understand why they couldn't have made a set for mage classes, DD classes, and tank classes for each rank in all three companies with the same stats. With the type of "balancing" they are currently doing I am not going to be surprised if the moogle fists have 200 damage on them and 50 attack power with an added bonus of "occasionally stuns the target" even though they are supposed to be equal to the ifrit weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Req View Post
    The incentive should be choosing the company you want to join, which is what Yoshi told us to do because it wasn't supposed to be advantageous to join a certain company over any other. It is unacceptable that uldah gets pants that give 9 attack power, in which the only item thats better for a DD is the mercenary's slops which is a pain in the ass to get I might add.

    Sure, they have different stats for different types of clases, I just don't understand why they couldn't have made a set for mage classes, DD classes, and tank classes for each rank in all three companies with the same stats.
    +1

    ^everything this dude said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Req View Post
    The incentive should be choosing the company you want to join, which is what Yoshi told us to do
    Which is exactly what you still do, you choose the GC you want to choose given what they stand for -- Even with certain gear being in certain places there's still zero benefit over one another.

    Are you getting 2,000 seals per quest joining Twin Adder instead of Immortal Flames?

    That's what you call an advantage given design -- Items that will more than likely be obsoleted in 2 months isn't an advantage.
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