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    Roxas_Andrade's Avatar
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    Roxas Andrade
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    Famfrit
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    Astrologian Lv 80

    Feedback on AST's Arcana Gauge

    Hi, I'm here today to talk about this new Arcana Gauge and how it isn't as good as I thought it would be...

    First, The Royal road effect is too smal compared to the whole gauge, but thats not the worst part, actually it's just the beginning...

    Secondly, the Arcana Gauge doesn't allow us to see our own cards as status, neither the other ASTs' as well. This is a bad thing, because in a party with two ASTs, we need to see what the other guy have so we won't rush into his plans (like when someone throws an AoE balance and we replace it with an AoE arrow one second later...)

    Secondly, we got this skill, Undraw, and some people liked it, because we wouldn't need a macro with the command /statusoff anymore... but let me say something: While I had a macro, the status would be erased anytime, now I have to consume a cast (even if it's instant) to remove it...
    Let me detail: If I would draw a spear, and wouldn't use it, I had a macro to use redraw, wait 5 seconds, then remove spear, ewer and spire automatically. I replaced the /statusoff with undraw, but it won't work while I'm casting...
    I know I'll probably want to make any unwanted card a Lord/Lady in the future, but this would still bother me in low level content...

    Anyone has any thought about it? Any help is welcome
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    Kurando's Avatar
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    Leon Reddas
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    Masamune
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    Scholar Lv 77
    Speaking about the gauge, honestly I think this issue would go for all of the jobs and not just AST. Sure they look pretty or cool, but definitely like you said in some situations you can't not see what your allies status is with them at that moment in time.

    The AST is a good example of preparing your cards, especially is another AST is in the group. I've found the Aetherflow for both SCH/SMN to be important to see as well, more the SCH so the group would know if they have instant heals available if things get a bit mad etc. The other jobs maybe not as important, but I like seeing numerals (of stock skills) or icons on the enhancements bar rather than fancy imagery. But having the option to have both showing would be nice.
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    AlexanderThorolund's Avatar
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    Eros Crux
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    Louisoix
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Any thoughts?

    Yeah. I think the gauge is fantastic and I don't have any issue with it.
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    LegoTechnic's Avatar
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    Seolla Viltara
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Not being able to see the buffs of other ASTs is problematic. This can be worked around by either being on voice chat (which you should be if you're raiding), or by simply not running an AST/AST healer combi, though there's nothing you can do about it if you wind up that way in duty finder for a trial or 24-man.

    I also agree that the Royal Road indicator is a little too small.
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    Cupcakesu's Avatar
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    Tomoyo Nellu
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I disliked the gauge at first but very quickly got used to it and now I actually enjoy having it. However, they definitely should do something about being unable to see the cards another AST has ready.
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    Jaber's Avatar
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    Sienna Akhabila
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I hate not being able to see other AST's cards in the party list. I hate not being able to see my own cards in the party list. I hate having to shift my focus off of everything else to glance at an obtrusive widget every time I draw or shuffle because there's no more floating text. I hate how much space it takes up to display what would otherwise be a handful of icons at the bottom of my screen.

    I've gone from having all the information I need in all the places I need it presented in an unobtrusive way, to having to either A) have this widget permanently in the middle of my screen or B) constantly look away from what I'm doing to check it.

    I find it incredibly obnoxious and I hate it. I want the status icons back...
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    Last edited by Jaber; 06-17-2017 at 05:27 PM.

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    Zoralink's Avatar
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    Zora Link
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaber View Post
    I hate not being able to see other AST's cards in the party list. I hate not being able to see my own cards in the party list. I hate having to shift my focus off of everything else to glance at an obtrusive widget every time I draw or shuffle because there's no more floating text. I hate how much space it takes up to display what would otherwise be a handful of icons at the bottom of my screen.

    I've gone from having all the information I need in all the places I need it presented in an unobtrusive way, to having to either A) have this widget permanently in the middle of my screen or B) constantly look away from what I'm doing to check it.

    I find it incredibly obnoxious and I hate it. I want the status icons back...
    Pretty much.

    Bonus points that with the removal of aetherflow stacks showing on SMN/SCH, I can no longer toss them a spear to make use of it. Previously I would hold a spear just to watch my summoner's Aetherflow stacks and judge when they were about to use it. Now I have next to no way of knowing, since even their dreadwyrm trance is hidden.

    Everything about this new gauge screams "Tacked on" just because the other jobs have gauges.

    It's infuriatingly bad.

    Frankly I hate most gauges entirely. At least have the gauge be an option while still retaining them showing up as buffs.
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    Last edited by Zoralink; 06-18-2017 at 11:33 AM.

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    LegoTechnic's Avatar
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    Seolla Viltara
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoralink View Post
    Pretty much.

    Bonus points that with the removal of aetherflow stacks showing on SMN/SCH, I can no longer toss them a spear to make use of it. Previously I would hold a spear just to watch my summoner's Aetherflow stacks and judge when they were about to use it. Now I have next to no way of knowing, since even their dreadwyrm trance is hidden.

    Everything about this new gauge screams "Tacked on" just because the other jobs have gauges.

    It's infuriatingly bad.

    Frankly I hate most gauges entirely. At least have the gauge be an option while still retaining them showing up as buffs.
    I actually don't mind the aetherflow stack gauge missing because I assume this means MNKs can no longer punch them off me in PVP.
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    Zora Link
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by LegoTechnic View Post
    I actually don't mind the aetherflow stack gauge missing because I assume this means MNKs can no longer punch them off me in PVP.
    If they wanted things like this, or preventing us from clicking off Royal Road, they could easily have had the buffs function like Diurnal/noct Sect do, or how Cleric Stance used to work, in that it's a buff you can't click off.

    There's literally no reason to not have had the option to still retain them as showing on your buff bar.
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    Crystal Skye
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    Halicarnassus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaber View Post
    I hate not being able to see other AST's cards in the party list. I hate not being able to see my own cards in the party list. I hate having to shift my focus off of everything else to glance at an obtrusive widget every time I draw or shuffle because there's no more floating text. I hate how much space it takes up to display what would otherwise be a handful of icons at the bottom of my screen.

    I've gone from having all the information I need in all the places I need it presented in an unobtrusive way, to having to either A) have this widget permanently in the middle of my screen or B) constantly look away from what I'm doing to check it.

    I find it incredibly obnoxious and I hate it. I want the status icons back...
    This man has it right. I dispise AST's guage. It is HARDER to tell what cards I have. A guage should make things EASIER, no harder. Absolutely a travesty.

    As for Undraw, it is a GODSEND for us controller users.
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