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    Welsper59's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    I did want to add though, I appreciate Yoshida responding, I really do. It's nice to hear them acknowledge the issue but ultimately I don't blame him at all. He's not the person whose job it is to maintain server infrastructure or manage the technical side of things (presumably, I don't know his full skill set!), I'd be more interested in hearing from them.
    My question for you though is, what is there to hear from them? Bandwidth/server limitations are always the culprit here. The only answer to remedy it is to spend money on more, which from a business stance, is a pretty pointless venture. Customers not getting perfect access does not constitute a temporary and (probably) expensive fix for a problem that does not last. The explanation you'd get is almost certainly going to be what you can read in the server congestion updates. Servers are not bottomless bags of resources.

    Don't get me wrong though, if they have the budget to do it, it'd be nice... but as someone that deals with annual budgets being controlled by other people that penny pinch, I can imagine it's kind of hard to change their mind on something unnecessary. I mean, we are talking about a situation where the problem is a result of funneling players through content, creating a problem that necessitated a bottleneck limit. Once that's been dealt with and people spread out more, it probably won't be an issue, hence why it's probably acknowledged as temporary (for now).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post

    Don't get me wrong though, if they have the budget to do it, it'd be nice... but as someone that deals with annual budgets being controlled by other people that penny pinch, I can imagine it's kind of hard to change their mind on something unnecessary. I mean, we are talking about a situation where the problem is a result of funneling players through content, creating a problem that necessitated a bottleneck limit. Once that's been dealt with and people spread out more, it probably won't be an issue, hence why it's probably acknowledged as temporary (for now).
    If thats the case, then they should not block the entire expansion behind a quest that will have performance bottlenecks.
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    Although there aren't many times where some major bug requires compensation, this is definitely one of them, especially when in 2014, Blizzard Entertainment compensated World of Warcraft players with a week's worth of game time for a circumstance almost exactly like this with the only difference being a DDoS attack on them, which was beyond their control but didn't have as much of an impact as the bugs that prevented players going forward with the early portion of the main questline. For those of you opposed to getting compensation for a massive bug like this one, regardless of whatever reason you come with, please know that that kind of behavior is one of the reasons promoting more issues like this arising and ruining gameplay experiences for all of us no matter how much you go on about having patience or that "this is an open beta" nonsense.

    As for the fix to this though, I'd have no problem whatsoever if they knocked out a full day to fix this and any other potential issue like this that may come up. Couldn't care less if that spoils that early access time, because for some, it already is.
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    I am not seeking an apology, I am looking for them to fix this shit. An apology will not get me past that quest, neither will it stop those recurring players from leaving.
    This can never happen ever again, they have to learn from this mistake.
    I am really angry here so I am trying to censure myself, so I will say it like this... what a god damn PR mess you guys made, the trust you lost will take time to rebuild and it will hurt the game in the long term if you do not show some serious goodwill here and I am not talking about words for those are cheap.
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    After about 12 hours of clicking the quest- I've decided to throw in the towel. I was hoping not to log out on day 1 heh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    After about 12 hours of clicking the quest- I've decided to throw in the towel. I was hoping not to log out on day 1 heh.
    Okay! So about 10 minutes after logging out my BF got in, so I logged back in and after 3 attempts got into the fight. Yay!
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    It's almost like most people have never experience an online game launch before. They tend to be messy, for the most part. It's not a simple thing to manage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaizeGraymalkin View Post
    It's almost like most people have never experience an online game launch before. They tend to be messy, for the most part. It's not a simple thing to manage.
    And it's because complacent people like you that game launchs will continue to be crappy forever. They CAN fix this, but they won't, cause they know that most players are complacent and will forget it 2 or 3 days after.

    It's funny how companies won't give up on their rights no matter what, but players are asked to give up on theirs all the time, fair and just, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezia View Post
    They CAN fix this, but they won't, cause they know that most players are complacent and will forget it 2 or 3 days after.
    No, they cannot.

    As I explained, that would be like saying that an overcrowded stadium can be fixed. The only way you could "fix" it would be reconstructing the entire stadium to make it bigger... and then all that would do is cause it to become overcrowded just a little bit slower.

    This kind of crowding and problems is a fact of life like death or taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    No, they cannot.

    As I explained, that would be like saying that an overcrowded stadium can be fixed. The only way you could "fix" it would be reconstructing the entire stadium to make it bigger... and then all that would do is cause it to become overcrowded just a little bit slower.

    This kind of crowding and problems is a fact of life like death or taxes.
    Oh my... So Blizzard made some kind of magic during legion launch?

    Guess that when your wallet starts getting lighter you better learn some magic tricks.
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