Non-Flame crafters getting burned

[Sephrick]

I'm stopping by to give you Triairy's post about the new Grand Company items coming in patch 1.20.


Also, we did take notes on all of your comments and will be forwarding it to the dev. team.

Thanks, Rukkirii! Hope we don't seem too whiny on your end. Just trying to create a discussion to figure out some design choices. Though, civil discussion isn't always the easiest thing to accomplish here.

[Meatdawg]

Thanks, Rukkirii! Hope we don't seem too whiny on your end. Just trying to create a discussion to figure out some design choices. Though, civil discussion isn't always the easiest thing to accomplish here.

Seems pretty whiny to me...

[Sephrick]

Seems pretty whiny to me...

It's not whiny to discuss facts. But thank you for your irrelevant contribution.

[Meatdawg]

It's not whiny to discuss facts. But thank you for your irrelevant contribution.

Yeah because who wants character uniqueness...

Watch out when i have .00002% better success rate then you....

You are not "discussing facts" you are throwing a fit because you cant have something.

[Sephrick]

Yeah because who wants character uniqueness...

Watch out when i have .00002% better success rate then you....

You are not "discussing facts" you are throwing a fit because you cant have something.

Actually I've been level-headed about it. It wasn't until people tried to make it sound like I was throwing a fit that I got a little more unnerved.

It's one thing to discuss ones own perspective. It's another to make useless post that is nothing more than "stfu crybaby lulz who cares."

And I am just discussing facts. Months ago, SE said this issue wouldn't come up. But it has.

This thread has rendered many great suggestions to remedy the situation without making all GC items the same with a different coat of paint.

Had I known what items Ul'dah was getting in 1.20, I'd have chosen Immortal Flames. But we were reassured it wouldn't matter.

The main theme of SE MMOs is that with one character, you can do everything. I like the idea that's akin to XI's conquest points. Allow us to spend double seals to get the items from other GCs as long as we're the proper rank in our own.

[Meatdawg]

Actually I've been level-headed about it. It wasn't until people tried to make it sound like I was throwing a fit that I got a little more unnerved.

It's one thing to discuss ones own perspective. It's another to make useless post that is nothing more than "stfu crybaby lulz who cares."

And I am just discussing facts. Months ago, SE said this issue wouldn't come up. But it has.

This thread has rendered many great suggestions to remedy the situation without making all GC items the same with a different coat of paint.

Had I known what items Ul'dah was getting in 1.20, I'd have chosen Immortal Flames. But we were reassured it wouldn't matter.

The main theme of SE MMOs is that with one character, you can do everything. I like the idea that's akin to XI's conquest points. Allow us to spend double seals to get the items from other GCs as long as we're the proper rank in our own.

You realize you have a 7 page thread going, one of many i see on the front page, because you cant "have the most stats for a crafter possible"

A system where 5 more +craft isn't going to make any noticeable difference when your crafting jobs are all level 50 and HQ is just 1 level....

Or 40 more Block on your shield isn't going to make you less of a tank then the other guy

SERIOUSLY do you have nothing better to complain about (facepalm)

This patch one GC has a few "perceivable" better items then another, and next patch a different one will.

There is way more things SE needs to concern themselves with then weather or not I can get better crafting pants then you...

[Sephrick]

You realize you have a 7 page thread going, one of many i see on the front page, because you cant "have the most stats for a crafter possible"

A system where 5 more +craft isn't going to make any noticeable difference when your crafting jobs are all level 50 and HQ is just 1 level....

Or 40 more Block on your shield isn't going to make you less of a tank then the other guy

SERIOUSLY do you have nothing better to complain about (facepalm)

This patch one GC has a few "perceivable" better items then another, and next patch a different one will.

There is way more things SE needs to concern themselves with then weather or not I can get better crafting pants then you...

Again, there was a contradiction in statements made. It's the principal that this sets a precedent and continues the trend of SE saying one thing and doing another.

Just like "we'll release the class action changes when 1.19 so that we can monitor player feedback to help shape our direction" the six weeks later when it's too late for our feedback to matter they release a list of bare bones information.

I'm less concerned with how good the items are or aren't and more so with consistency in statements made by the developer.

We all made a choice we can't undo based on what we were told and what we were told has proven incorrect.

If SE wants to rebuild trust, stucking to their word or being updront about changing their minds is a good place to start.