SB Bard Changes: Good or Bad? Thoughts?

[SunOfApollo932]

I have some problems with SB BRD changes, I wanted to get opinions:

First, The new songs proc repertoire when you crit one of the two bite moves. While these did receive a potency boost, it's setting you up to spam the two if you can't get the crits off (which is still chance). To me, this feels less effective than previously. It might be more fluid to play if instead rep was based off the Shot moves (Straight and Heavy)

Second, Iron Jaws. Because of the repertoire system you're forced to spam the bites anyways to build up the meters so it's outdated rn. And again, switching to shots would remedy this

Finally (minor point), songs don't feel like they last long enough for effects to matter. Personally, they feel too short to make use of rep, but this could be remedied easily by extending time or making rep transfer

I know at higher levels these may not be a problem, but low levels it makes these skills feel... underwhelming.Thoughts below on changes? Bites or Shots?

[Furious]

The 4 stack from paeon (I think?) really needs a duration on the buff so that it carries over.. like make it reset to a 15 second duration each time it gets procced, and carry that buff over into the next song if it happens later than that in the paeon.

I don't know what you mean by "forced to spam the bites"; you just apply them and keep them applied; the dot ticks will proc the song effects. Unless you mean new targets or something? I dunno.

[SunOfApollo932]

Ah, is it whenever the DoT damage crits? My mistake, I must have read it wrong. Still, I think the shots skills would synergize better, since you get the guarenteed crit from heavy shot and it would pull some of the chance out of the rep system.
And yeah, The rep definently needs to be a buff of some kind. or a seperate meter, like sch and smn aetherflow stacks.

[Mephistobr]

You don't need to spam bite or venomous, once the enemy has the DoT every tick of it has a chance to crit and grant repertoire.

[Lyni]

Don't forget that Improved Emp Arrow also guarantees a proc from the bites outside of the bite tick.

[MuseTraveller]

I love it... everything in it. I haven't read into an opener or rotation yet. At level 60 made my own and love how it flows. I hit same dps as it was before the changes so I assume I juggle the skills right. Yet to see how it feels at level 70 obviously but so far loving it.

[Jilliebeans]

idk about about BRD being good or bad but BRD is holding the one of the MOST player based right now, all my ques are been with 3-4 BRD now..

[EdwinLi]

idk about about BRD being good or bad but BRD is holding the one of the MOST player based right now, all my ques are been with 3-4 BRD now..

Bard has always been the most player base Job in FF14 since 2.0 due to how mindless it can be with gameplay.

Easiest Job to pick up and requires the least effort to play in this game due to always being at range and mobile with very little consequence, well except in 3.0, thus less stress and less mental requirements to play

[Rhysati]

Bard has always been the most player base Job in FF14 since 2.0 due to how mindless it can be with gameplay.

That has never been the case. BRD in ARR was among the least played classes if not the very bottom as they had extremely subpar DPS due to being designed to be a support class. This led to pretty much every raid static needing to find a BRD above all else.

In HW they regained some popularity once they had better DPS, but have always been somewhat around the middle of the pack in terms of popularity.

[EdwinLi]

That has never been the case. BRD in ARR was among the least played classes if not the very bottom as they had extremely subpar DPS due to being designed to be a support class. This led to pretty much every raid static needing to find a BRD above all else.

In HW they regained some popularity once they had better DPS, but have always been somewhat around the middle of the pack in terms of popularity.

In raid tier yes but for casual content is was quite frequent to run into Bards if not often both DPS slots are Bards.

Heck back in 2014 and 2015 Bards population rival summoner and Dragoon


i hardly call that the least played Job in FF14 when Monk is the least played Job back in 2.X