SE This is Unacceptable (Healer changes, Mostly SCH)

[Eloah]

I so wish I could wait until the servers come back up to say this but, the proof is right there in the Patch Notes.

You Broke Scholar

At the end of 3.X all of the healers were in a good place, White Mage was the only one that needed a little attention. But with these new updates, you didn't help WHM and you broke SCH. PLUS, you buffed AST so much its ridicules. It's just absurd. You killed a Job that needed nothing, just a few new skills to go with the expansion. At the moment I and a lot of Scholar mains are just outright pissed. We were optimistic that what we saw from the media tour wasn't 100%. Well with the official Patch Notes and the new Job explanations, we see that SCH got hit harder than we thought it would have.

They nerfed our MP restoration, they nerfed our AoE, they nerfed our healing output, and the new adjustments add nothing new to the job, it actually removes from it. The Fairy Guage isn't usable until 70, if we could use it at 30 maybe it might be useful, but nope. Excognition sounded great when we first heard about it, but it has a time limit; why would we waste and Aetherflow stack on a heal that might never happen. I personally didn't do the math, but Chain Strategem apparently is worse than we initially thought, cool idea, poor execution. And why nerf us AND our fairy, a fairy nerf we could maybe understand. Hey if all you did was nerf Embrace's potency but increased or supplemented ours, okay, mildly upsetting, but its not a bad trade off. Nope, Fairy sorta sucks now too. you actually created a worst micro managing system, way to go.

They didn't even address the skills that needed addressing, Silent Dusk, Dissipation, and slight adjustments to Deployment Tactics. granted WHM isn't that great either but at least what we saw was "changed" SCH's got it so much worse. And AST, WHAT THE HELL. They can now do a 300 potency attack or a 540 potency heal every 5 seconds.... 5 SECONDS!!! Their shields are better, they now have more healing output since Diurnal is a potency boost over a speed boost. And while Aspected Benefic might of seen an MP increase, I bet it'll be no where near as high as Adloquim; which is not instant, and now will suck even if it crits, "but we can spread it" yeah and how often will we be able to spread the Critlo. Oh, and since we lost Leeches, you'd think they'd give us a new level 40 Skill, nothing, the other healers have a trait and a skill, SCH got nothing. Guess I wont touch SCH again until 5.0 when they decide to fix it. Now instead of Fix SMN thread it'll be Fix SCH threads. And I plan on supporting Every one.

Signed- One Pissed Scholar

(SE, I, and other Scholars, just what the perfection you created prior to the abomination that is the 4.0 Scholar)

Edit: I made paragraphs, I admit not being in paragraphs to start was bad.
Edit 2: Someone pointed out that the 5 second thing is incorrect. you need a card to get those effects so it would be 30s not 5, but still that is quite a bit of power. I have crossed it off of my "rant"

[Rymm]

Guess you didn't see the exact same thread on the front page (in your defense, it was at least four whole slots front top) but here you go! Hope it helps.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-AST-only-why

[Furiea]

paragraph please.

and.. just switch to a different jobs. this is FF14 with job/class system.

[MrsFluffyButt]

Next, please.

[DynamoAce]

......It's really not THAT bad. In all fairness I kinda see the nerfs were a bit needed.

[Cupcakesu]

......It's really not THAT bad. In all fairness I kinda see the nerfs were a bit needed.

SOME of the nerfs may have been necessary, but they got nuked with reductions. They have zero AoE damage to speak of now (not even a Gravity/Holy competitor) and fairy heals were nerfed. There's also the new issue of MP efficiency since Aetherflow gives half as much MP as before and some spell costs like Adlo's have gone up.

A fairy nerf could have been fine if they didn't also completely remove Scholar's ability to help with groups of mob and reduce overall DPS by cutting some DoTs. Or contrarily, they could remove Scholar's damage potential but keep Fairy's healing.

[Skyrior]

• schs are getting 960 potency fey union over 6s usabale every 40s (or 1440 pot per minute, but I'm guessing no one really needs to heal 1440 pot)
• shadowflare is not a nerf (it's on an ogcd, replace the two gcds with broil2 and calculate the potency yourself)
• bane, miasma2, blizz2 is a nerf, but inconsequential in raids (don't bring up a2s or a9s because no serious raider can't clear that)
• chain strat blows whm dps out of the water (all crit chance buffs are additive right now, so this is most probably additive too)
• excog is a pure buff
• sch utility is still irreplaceable (fey illum, fey cov, deploy, etc.)
• schs are getting cross-class skills for FREE (divine seal, shroud of saints)

only bad healer is whm and they aren't nerfed, just not buffed enough

[Velthice]

• schs are getting 960 potency fey union over 6s usabale every 40s (or 1440 pot per minute, but I'm guessing no one really needs to heal 1440 pot)
• shadowflare is not a nerf (it's on an ogcd, replace the two gcds with broil2 and calculate the potency yourself)
• bane, miasma2, blizz2 is a nerf, but inconsequential in raids
• chain strat blows whm dps out of the water (all crit chance buffs are additive right now, so this is most probably additive too)
• excog is a pure buff
• sch utility is still irreplaceable (fey illum, fey cov, deploy, etc.)
• schs are getting cross-class skills for FREE (divine seal, shroud of saints)

only bad healer is whm and they aren't nerfed, just not buffed enough

don't forget this


No really sch is fine. if you want to see a real tragedy, look at the tanks.

[Cupcakesu]

• schs are getting 960 potency fey union over 6s usabale every 40s (or 1440 pot per minute, but I'm guessing no one really needs to heal 1440 pot)

What is the math behind this statement? 3s of Fey Union = 480 potency = 10 Fey Points, and cancelling after two procs (or whenever your gauge goes down by 20)? Are we sure this is how it works?

[Skyrior]

What is the math behind this statement? 3s of Fey Union = 480 potency = 10 Fey Points, and cancelling after two procs (or whenever your gauge goes down by 20)? Are we sure this is how it works?

Yes, 20 fey points -> 480 x 2 = 960 pot

20 fey points is accumulated via 2 AF actions. You get 3 AF actions per minute (more AF actions if you include the free 3 AF actions in your opener).

It would make absolute ZERO sense for it to be 480 potency across 100 fey points (that would make this be the most useless skill ever). So it is almost definitely going to act like a HoT (and if it is an HoT according the game logic Fey Union would be even further buffed by SpS).