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    rblyell's Avatar
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    Moon Prince
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 70

    Love The New System

    I thought helaling was going to be different. And it is but in a great and fun Way! I'm actually healing as a SCH and not just letting my fairy do all the WORK!
    I ran Ampador Hard a couple days ago, before 4.0, and spent the entire run in Cleric Stance dps'ing and letting Selene heal the entire run.
    As random luck would have it I qued up today, the first dungeon roulette of 4.0, and got Ampador Hard again! I actually healed the entire run and did a little DPS as my party was doing great with killing he adds but I was also able as a SCH to feel useful as a healer.
    I chose healer and play healer cause I like to support the team, dpsing is always something I had to do to fill the space and help my team kill mobs/bosses but with the current balancing of the battle system I can play my class how it should be played.
    Thanks Yoshi and the FFXIV team! I love SCH again!
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    Lua Kahra
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I know how you feel. I started the game as a SCH main but I didn't like how it played out in endgame; trying to get as much DPS in as you let the fairy do the healing. I haven't tried SCH yet but I'm excited to do so
    Also nice to see someone who's not complaining about the changes, take my like.
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    Freja Reginleif
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Not sure if this is a troll post or not or just a major difference in point of view. Scholar has been dumbed down considerably. It's a much more boring class than what it was with not nearly enough tools to contribute to the party? You had to heal a lot in Ampdapor keep HM? Mate, with good management you don't have to heal anything. With the removal of cleric stance, I can DPS even more to be more useful. The idea that you have to heal more is a myth. The transition between DPS and healing is so easy that it should enable you to DPS more.
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    Ebony Seraph
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Seems like someone just prefer that if they are in the healer role, they actually have to primarily heal. Maybe SE really wanted to attack the state of SCH job using the fairy to avoid manual healing and put them more in line with WHM and AST in that regard. If you're not healing, don't expect your party to be sustained? I main WHM but have more recently spent a fair amount of time as SCH. In the past I've been bitten switching back to WHM forgetting that if I'm in cleric the tank has ZERO healing outside of a regen I applied (which isn't as good as a fairy).

    Folks may feel this is dumbed down. Others may feel this is what they expected to do when playing a healer role.
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ailis View Post
    I know how you feel. I started the game as a SCH main but I didn't like how it played out in endgame; trying to get as much DPS in as you let the fairy do the healing. I haven't tried SCH yet but I'm excited to do so
    Also nice to see someone who's not complaining about the changes, take my like.
    Thanks Allis! I have to say I was sceptical but after that run I knew exactly what they're trying to do. And I love Yoshikawa and the FFXIV for balancing the game.
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I actually like a ton of the changes to healers, too. It's just such a massive shift in meta that it's blindsiding us.

    We healers really aren't meant to be another source of high damage, and we shouldn't have been stuck in that position. And natually there will be growing pains.

    The only issue now is the bizarre balancing we have with SCH/WHM being slotted as pure healers, while AST still feels similar to it's 3.5 self, making it comparatively too powerful.

    4.1 is gonna be wild.
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    Rubiss Tantegel
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 90
    If you love the new system, you clearly haven't touched SCH prior. They are really bad right now. No one at SE plays SMN/SCH and whoever suggested these changes and whoever signed off on them should be fired. They have no business being anywhere near anything balance related.
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    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    If you love the new system, you clearly haven't touched SCH prior. They are really bad right now. No one at SE plays SMN/SCH and whoever suggested these changes and whoever signed off on them should be fired. They have no business being anywhere near anything balance related.
    This is such a gross overreaction I have no response other than to call it out.

    Healing is different. These abilities are different. Tanks and DPS are different. If the OP is enjoying those changes thats great! If you aren't that sucks but its no reason to be calling for someones job.
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    Luna Faye
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    Leviathan
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    Weaver Lv 51
    I tested some healer jobs today as well, and I do have to admit the changes made to mnd/int aren't bad, however the overall removal of some skills that made some jobs unique should have not happen. Also another rant, if I take a shot for every time I tried clicking on and off that cleric stance, I've been fully wasted within the first 10 minutes of the new expansion. I know we need to get used to that, but since they changed nearly everything already, could have changed at least the "wannabe" new cleric stance eh buff icon. It's irritating to see it with another function after years of playing. Make it blue for all I care if redesigning the picture would take to much resources lol.
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    Rubiss Tantegel
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    This is such a gross overreaction I have no response other than to call it out.

    Healing is different. These abilities are different. Tanks and DPS are different. If the OP is enjoying those changes thats great! If you aren't that sucks but its no reason to be calling for someones job.
    Enjoying it? What's to enjoy? Less DoTs and a massive hit in AoE damage? Maybe they like that new skill Excogitation which is so poorly designed, it reeks of pre-cleric stance changes. Could it be Broil 2? Nah, it's mashing the same key you did for Broil. Shadow Flare nerfs? Sure, you are pressing that button less times. Could be more fun. Quickened Aetherflow? That ability is so bad I couldn't possibly begin to explain. Fey Union? Sure that's cool. 10y is kind of a short range.

    SCH is so horribly designed now I am almost amazed. I can't believe any at SE actually thought this was okay. Then again, same company that buffs AST even more and handed out WHM RNG mechanics. People were paid for these ideas? Shift departments. Balance is nowhere near their strong suit. A simple glance at WHM and SCH would have made any competent game developer laugh.
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