Healing Direction - is the current design balanced?

[Ryans]

I would like to point out that the having whm in mind when they created these changes would have no baring on the OP concerns. He is commenting on cnjs lack of diversity in cures pre-30 and cnj won't unlock whm until 30. Anyone with basic skills of observation can tell you those two numbers are the same and that whm won't help cnj heal pre-30.

[Manafont]

i hate post like this by people who obviously don't do research or READ any of the spells listed for cnj. you get more than one heal and you get an aoe heal stop complaining when you bad

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

For a new player that can't find or tag along with a vet, those lower levels last longer than one would think with the 1.19 adjustments.
For a vet, these levels could be passed a lot quicker if desired.

I do see the OP's point. The role of healer is narrowed down to Conjurer. Versus say having two tank options or multiple damage specialists. And of the healing abilities that can be used on others, appears to be three-ish or so during 1.20. Others must learn to defend themselves and stay their own wounds.

For now we must make do.. But I would like to see regen effects and instant cast cures on others make their return. Maybe low enmity instant cast regen (doesn't have the initial heal effect of Sacrifice), where enmity is calculated based on the first tick.

[Monsalvato]

i hate post like this by people who obviously don't do research or READ any of the spells listed for cnj. you get more than one heal and you get an aoe heal stop complaining when you bad

Because you clearly read, and understood, the first post of this thread.
Right? /rollseyes

[Firon]

Honestly if Con can heal up to 30/34 w/o any aoe heals so can THM

[Soukyuu]

Seems to me they're saying "who cares about game balance/game content before you reach the max level"

Yeah, who cares? You get PLed to 40 anyway and then reach 50 in shortest amount of time... so "who cares" indeed.

[Alise]

I did quite a lot of times, but that's not the real issue here.

The new healing model is single tier spells. To create a difference between "cheap spell that doesn't heal much" and "mp expensive spell that heals a lot" we already have Cure and Cura.
Such a model has been successfully deployed in many other MMORPG, among which the famous World of Warcraft.

The problem is rather that we're getting a single spell for 30 levels compared to what we did get before and to what you get in other games.


It's not really a problem of balancing with jobs, since jobs aren't in-game atm and won't be for several months, and since at max level (50) the thing I'm talking about is not an issue.
I'm talking about people who are levelling.
As fast as the process is, just how "balanced" is the choice of giving them a single spell for over 30 levels and no AoE spells for 48 levels?

Seems to me they're saying "who cares about game balance/game content before you reach the max level", which, in my view, it's a game design flaw.
Nobody says they should focus on balancing the game experience for players not at level cap, that would be ridiculous, but the way they seem to be going seems the exact opposite extreme.

Ever since the old day when leveling took lot of time, I never need to use 2x type of cure until R50. So bare with one type only until R30 is nothing.

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

Ever since the old day when leveling took lot of time, I never need to use 2x type of cure until R50. So bare with one type only until R30 is nothing.

Although to be fair, we did have AoE cure at level 4 for 1/5 of the MP cost.

[Monsalvato]

Yeah, who cares? You get PLed to 40 anyway and then reach 50 in shortest amount of time... so "who cares" indeed.

I do care, I don't have anybody PLing me nor I do want anybody to PL me, even for free.

I don't get why everybody nowadays seems to be in such a haste to level.
I'm not promoting the days of extreme grinding like in other games where you had to waste a week to gain a single level, that's definitely way too much and anachronistic in 2012.
But making so levelling doesn't matter anymore only generates the unavoidable consequence of players never being satisfied with the speed, wanting more and more, up to the point where you start wondering: why level at all?

If it's such a hindrance, an annoyment, why not making so there's a single level in the game? Let's make so everybody starts the game at max level, actually let's just cut levels out of the game.
I expect this to happen sooner or later from some of the upcoming big MMOs.

Really, I'm not saying developers should exceed in the direction of too much grinding -too much is always too much-, but the opposite excess is not satisfying either for me.
Levelling should be seen as an enjoyable experience that you're willing to do more than once, not as something "slowing you down" on the way to get to the level cap.
I really don't get why 98% of the playerbase see things this way nowadays, it didn't use to be like this 10 years ago.


The thing about THM being able to heal just as fine as CNJ (aside from the differences in job traits) on the first 30 levels really drives me mad. It's actually pretty true, and that's the reason why I'm getting angry.
They did all this class reform revolution to rightfully change the way classes "felt" and were perceived, because people were equipping actions from other classes and the threshold between one class and the other was really too thin. I felt that clearly levelling CNJ and THM, where I could equip CNJ spells on my THM and feel almost like a CNJ, an vice-versa.
So they *rightfully* decide to create a revolution to make so each class feels special and unique an different and what do we get is: "THM can heal just as fine as CNJ for the first 30 levels, using Cure, a CNJ spell".
Now, am I the only one seeing the irony in all of this?

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

I do see your point Monsalvato. I think most of the responses you're getting later are people continuing to misinterpret your first post.