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    Oxmodial's Avatar
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    Character
    Inspired God
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70

    Machinist feels like it got destroyed

    Maybe not from a damage point of view, because we wont know that until 70, but we just lost a bunch of our oGCD skills that we were using to pop off with wildfire.

    Raging Strikes
    Blood for Blood
    Hawks eye
    Quelling strikes
    Blank (does no damage now)
    oGCD stun/silence that shared a cooldown now do no damage as a class role
    Lead shot also got deleted, which was a dot that took some planning to figure out when it was optimal to cast

    I liked playing machinist because it was a good combination of mechanical play and having to think about your next step. The heat gauge will be interesting but man I feel like from a button pressing perspective I'm going to be falling asleep. Especially because we don't have GB cast time anymore so it's going to feel like there's even MORE dead time between abilities.
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    Last edited by Oxmodial; 06-16-2017 at 06:32 PM.

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    Viz79's Avatar
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    Character
    Shiar'sae Tlais
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 66
    Well the truth was it did need a revamp - it was the most unpopular class by far, and for a reason. I appreciate you may have liked it as it was, but personally now there are big changes I actually feel like trying it. Which is the whole point really
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  3. 06-17-2017 02:19 AM

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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Keiji Zaika
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Umm.. I admit the same Fate met Bard, a lot of buffs disappeared.. And in fact for the sake of casual players things got "easier". I would still wait til lv70 til you unlock all your gcd/ogcd skills and then complain again. I didnt touch MCH yet, will do once I got bard to 70 but yea.
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    Character
    Seraphus Highwynn
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 100
    Honestly, MCH was supposed to have many attachments. In 3.x we only had Gauss Barrel. Now we get a Flame Thrower and some other nifty tools/abilities, rather than half of our skills coming from Cross-class and relying mostly on a one-trick pony Wildfire mechanic. Also the gun mage thing was annoying. Now MCH feels like an actual Machinist, using tools and devices and weaving in gun damage in the meantime, rather than 3.x MCH which felt more like a Gunner job 1-52 and then a Gun Mage 52-60.
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    Maero's Avatar
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    Character
    I'shtola Maqa
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Other jobs loose all that you have listed as well....
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    Scars_Humora's Avatar
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    Character
    Surukana Humora
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    I like the changes to white mage so far >.>
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    Know my pain....know the pain of a broken heart

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    MomoOG's Avatar
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    Character
    Vicas Windwalker
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Removal of class complexity is a general theme with this expansion. Not specific to MCH.
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    daedalusAI's Avatar
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    Albedo Thiay
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by MomoOG View Post
    Removal of class complexity is a general theme with this expansion. Not specific to MCH.
    So you're saying this is the SE-version of WoW legion - dumbing down everything as far as humanly possible?
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    Vicas Windwalker
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by daedalusAI View Post
    So you're saying this is the SE-version of WoW legion - dumbing down everything as far as humanly possible?
    correcto mondo
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    Rhysati's Avatar
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    Character
    Madeye Moxie
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoruichi4478 View Post
    For me, and I'm toying with swapping to mch, is what they did to my beloved bard.... I am no fan of the ffxi bard, boring to even watch and was looking forward to no more cast bar on bard, but when I logged in this morning, all I could do was stare at the more utility based it is and I hate the proposed playstyle of song weaving and let the tears flow and started planning a funeral for a job I've been since ARR came out. I don't like being forced into a more support with some dps role. That's not me.
    They even took away my Flaming Arrow......and removed the dmg Repelling Shot could do when used. SE can keep their bloody harp. I'm a dps.
    I don't even know where to begin here. You've been Bard since ARR came out but you didn't want to be a support with some dps? That's what Bards were from the very beginning! They had significantly lower DPS built in to make up for the massive support role they held. HW messed that up and anything that goes back in that direction is SUPER welcome. There are plenty of DPS options to take instead!

    I mean, geez...Bards even used the healer Limit Break through all of ARR because they were a support class.
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    Last edited by Rhysati; 06-17-2017 at 03:20 AM.

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