SB SMN: Bio and Bio II?

[Endeleon]

I tried more myself. It seems doable... slow but doable. I'm only in the 255 quest gear tho. The biggest boon I've found is Drain. 1k heals every 2s. It's definitely needed for me as enemies, just the basic ones hit me hard and my pet keeps dying. I'll withhold anger until I get to 70, but it is really a confusing change.

[Silverquick]

Well I won't even be playing SMN at this point, barring major changes. I'll just move straight to BLM.

I might try some MSQ content with it, but anything outside of that probably won't be doable. And doing Dungeons with other players will likely be painful at best.

Those are some major DPS hits, and likely to put us on the bottom of the pile with regards to caster jobs.

Still I did at least wait until launch to see if it really was true before leaving the job behind.

[Neela]

Well I won't even be playing SMN at this point, barring major changes. I'll just move straight to BLM.

Finally!! What a blessing <3

[Berethos]

Those are some major DPS hits, and likely to put us on the bottom of the pile with regards to caster jobs.

I'd repeat that you're basing this off level 60, and that the real place to see if things are balanced is level 70, but I'd wager you're too busy complaining to realize that.

[Silverquick]

I'd repeat that you're basing this off level 60, and that the real place to see if things are balanced is level 70, but I'd wager you're too busy complaining to realize that.

Well... I fail to see how this is going to change much.

At best... all of the higher level abilities only bring it up to the level of damage it was already doing at level 60 previously. And even then, Ruin 4 only has a 15% chance to proc... So you're still stuck at below level 60 damage for the most part.

So it would mean SMN is stuck at level 60 damage while all the other jobs are at level 70 damage.

The Bahamut pet COULD have made up for it but you only get it for 20 seconds every 3minutes... you'll basically be doing nerfed damage the rest of the time.

[Berethos]

Well... I fail to see how this is going to change much.

Do you not remember the difference between level 40 and level 50? Or level 30 and level 40?

You don't have your entire kit for level 70, you don't have the gear available at that point, and you're not fighting the enemies nor doing dungeons/raids at level 70...

So judging how balanced the class will be (or won't be) at level 70 based on your experience at level 60 is either naive or willfully ignorant.

[Silverquick]

Do you not remember the difference between level 40 and level 50? Or level 30 and level 40?

You don't have your entire kit for level 70, you don't have the gear available at that point, and you're not fighting the enemies nor doing dungeons/raids at level 70...So judging how balanced the class will be (or won't be) at level 70 based on your experience at level 60 is either naive or willfully ignorant.

Sorry I missed this post...

Again I fail to see anything in the upper teir abilities... that shows me the DPS is going to change any... turns out Bio III and Miasma III are still only 40 potency per tick... in HW it was 110 per tick with Tri-Disaster at level 60.

I was already right about what was going to happen at launch... and the major nerf.... We're pretty much stuck doing level 60 damage at level 70.

When they fix this job after figuring out its not going to fly... and revert the changes back to HW and 3.0.... then rebuild it from there up to SB 4.0...

Then I'll be back...

Until then... nope... they already proved to me they've broken the class at this point... when they go back and unbreak it... we'll talk again...

[Neela]

yeah im really looking forward the worlds firsts experience in a serious raid setup but that will take a bit of time - everything else is just a "first impression" - it's way to early to judge anything yet ^^

[Neela]

You are Blm now get outta here :3

[Havenchild]

Far to earlier to judge the class at level 70 without any of the skill/ traits gained from 60-70. The Ruin Mastery trait alone may be a noticeable boost to overall damage.