A question to the producer and dev’s.

[Mahono]

Here is my question to the dev’s of SE; How does job balancing work according to you guys, what is the logic behind it?
I still fail to understand any of it. We showed our concerns with this before and we’ve been told to “calm down” and “it’s all subject to change”.

In HW you had 3 tanks where 1 was perfectly balanced (WAR) and one needed attention (PLD). DRK was designed to be in the middle somewhere and it was.

What is the logic behind breaking/ bringing down 2 of the tanks while significantly buffing the one tank that got left behind. How does this make them all equally balanced?
The way I see it, all you had to do is fix the flaws PLD had to make him compete with the other 2 and job balancing was done for tanks.

Now instead; PLD got a massive buff, DRK got destroyed to be boring, not fun/brain dead and possibly even useless depending on who you ask, and WAR got nerfed by having his unique tanking capabilities removed.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/darkknight/

[Pori_Dessu]

Taking from a post in GD about WHM, but with changes to fit in the tank discussion:
"This is WHY we had no new tank jobs for 4.0, they can't even balance the 3 current ones. Guess the game is PLD only now, woot?" - Adapted from Hamada's post in a WHM discussion.
This is the feeling I'm getting now.

[Jhett_Magnum]

Yeah let's give DRK 5 god damn aoes.
Oh and let's make Double weaving oGCDs a mandatory thing.
This is so fustrating it ain't even funny. Where's the skill that prevents DA from falling off after one use.
Why increase the potency of bloodspiller in grit when you could just ignore the damage penalty?

[DJMau]

Yeah let's give DRK 5 god damn aoes.
Oh and let's make Double weaving oGCDs a mandatory thing.
This is so fustrating it ain't even funny. Where's the skill that prevents DA from falling off after one use.
Why increase the potency of bloodspiller in grit when you could just ignore the damage penalty?

Grit reduces Damage dealt by 20%
Darkside increases Damage dealt by 20%

Meaning damage lost = 0%

[aleph_null]

Grit reduces Damage dealt by 20%
Darkside increases Damage dealt by 20%

Meaning damage lost = 0%

They're multiplicative, not additive afaik.

[DerpyCubone]

Grit reduces Damage dealt by 20%
Darkside increases Damage dealt by 20%

Meaning damage lost = 0%

Defiance reduces reduces Damage dealt by 20%
Storm's Eye increases Damage dealt by 20%

Meaning damage lost = 0%

What is your point?

[Shurrikhan]

Defiance reduces reduces Damage dealt by 20%
Storm's Eye increases Damage dealt by 20%

Meaning damage lost = 0%


What is your point?

Start with a value of 1

Multiply by .8

Your result is .8

Multiply by 1.2

Your result is not equal to 1 (it's .96)

Also, I don't think that was the whole point...

[eagledorf]

^ I think you mean divide by 1.25. 1/1.2*1.2 DOES equal one.

[DerpyCubone]

Start with a value of 1

Multiply by .8 or divide by 1.2

Your result is .8

Multiply by 1.2

Your result is not equal to 1 (it's .96)

Also, I don't think that was the whole point...

Yea, I understand that. I was trying to ask what he was getting at in the first place.

[hotaruchan]

the amount of difference you analy pointed out .04 will do is statistically insignificant for all intents and purposes