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    Tint's Avatar
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    do i even have to care using any defensive cooldowns anymore? i mean: even if i wanted to use them, where are they? xD just stay in grit all day, pressing 1-2-3...
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Esp View Post
    Didn't Rampart take a hit too? Rumored it's 10% mitigation and not 20%, lol.
    Thats awful.....That means cover has more mitigation than a cross role cd....

    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    do i even have to care using any defensive cooldowns anymore? i mean: even if i wanted to use them, where are they? xD just stay in grit all day, pressing 1-2-3...
    Yeah Im really confused how stoneskin was a good idea to give drk while taking away its lifesteals potency and nerfing its main mitigation cooldown, if as above it really is only 10%

    question if cover mitigates dmg, what happens when 2 or more pld cover each other?
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    Jugem Mumei
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 37
    It appears Rampart is still 20%. The 10% was the old GLD Rampart left over from 3.0.
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    Espikes Darkwind
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by eagledorf View Post
    It appears Rampart is still 20%. The 10% was the old GLD Rampart left over from 3.0.
    I do forget sometimes that the old untraited versions are still in the data, so yea. It's exactly why I heard it as a rumor, and not a confirmation xD

    It's still hitting pretty hard for all these unnecessary nerfs DRK is getting, even though we weren't even the best tank and SLIGHTLY stronger than PLD. We were in the middle, not the best, but for damn sure not the worst.. and now?

    This is in no way balance, and if all of this is true, I sure do hope that changes are looked into at 4.1.
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    Last edited by Esp; 06-16-2017 at 08:35 AM.

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    Claire Pendragon
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    Mateus
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    The reason Soul Eater is nerfed, is because we're going to be using soul eater a LOT more than we did before, due to our DPS combo change. (We'd still want to DA soul eater, for the HP healed, but its pretty minimal of a difference, which I think is another reason it was lowered to such an extreme)

    Dark Passenger was already really bad, so it BETTER have no MP cost, or be even lower in MP cost than 3.x
    Also the DA bonus dmg on quietus is soooo bad.
    While we cant boost the dmg on abyssal drain, wouldnt it be better to spend the MP on more abyssal drains, than DA?
    Unless the DPS check is so tight, u cant run out of MP before time is up.
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

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    Will Brannigan
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Yeah there seems to be a lot of legacy data left over. If Rampart (cross) does end up 10%, they might just be trying to force tanks to rely on gauge-costing defensive cooldowns more. Depending on how they do it, that could force tank stance (for pld and war anyway) just because of rapid tank busters. Rampart at 10% is also an indirect nerf to Intervention.
    The Souleater change makes no sense. In the first place, nobody ever got the Souleater heal in a raid because no one ever used Grit on DRK. Second, 10% is basically nothing - why bother having it at all? A friend of mine suggested it might be another Koji-foxism and the tooltip might just be wrong. Has anyone seen the JP tooltip?
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    Pixiline Paradigm
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    @OP: Please rename this thread in such a way that brings attention to how badly DRK has been nerfed so we can get some eyes on this.
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    Praesul Presul
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    @OP: Please rename this thread in such a way that brings attention to how badly DRK has been nerfed so we can get some eyes on this.
    I'm not sure how to change the thread title, or if I even can.
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    Blackheart Kasuragi
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    between drk and mnk i wonder which is the worse off, both are my main so either way it goes i got my work cut out for me....*deep sigh*
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    Espikes Darkwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackheart View Post
    between drk and mnk i wonder which is the worse off, both are my main so either way it goes i got my work cut out for me....*deep sigh*
    I know I am freaking out a bit myself, but I'll be good for now and just...wait to see things for myself. I'm usually a calm person and even this has me a bit riled up. Lol
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