I don't think pla will do enough dps as ST

[Alise]

Well they mentioned that they want all the tank classes to be equal good as MT and ST. But then from what i look at skill list now. Pla attack only have 10 potential increase on each in exchange for nerfed utility. Then all of Oath gauge skills are meant for reducing damage only. While War and Drk can spending their gauge for powerful/strong attack skill.

So i don\\'t think this will be like what they said. Pla still better at damage reduction, while lower dps as always anyway. I don\\'t see how pla new update will make equal dps tp Drk and War at all. Just saying.

[Alise]

Sorry for little typo. Text this from mobile phone and there is no option for editing

[eagledorf]

Are you trolling?

Because PLD got an entirely new caster phase to their rotation and Fight or Flight uptime was enhanced from 33% to 42%. The potency buffs to their combos are only one small part of the DPS increase.

PLD still is weak in AoE and has to do 0 DPS to self-heal, but in terms of maximum single target output they should be substantially ahead of the other two tanks unless something has been adjusted behind the scenes.

[Alise]

Without gauge, they might be on pair but when DRK and WAR spending their gauge for high potency attack. They will still be better. Pla can only use gauge for damage reduction

[Thoro39]

PLD got:

• Higher natural potencies in 350 potency combo finisher & 670 potency dot finisher, while WAR is limited to 260~280 combo finishers and DRK'S 280~420 Combo finishers. The potency difference is massive.
• 61% buff uptime under a 20% damage buff between FoF + ResQ
• 5 times spammable magic nuke under 20% damage buff every 60 seconds, whereas WAR is limited to 9 Fellcleaves per 120 seconds(making it effectively 4.5~5 fellcleaves per minute) and DRK to 2-3 Bloodsplitters every 60 seconds
• Highest number of OGCD damage moves with 4 OGCDs while WAR only has 2 and DRK only 3
• On top of all that, PLD still retains SwordOath damage

It's really easy to see how PLD pulls ahead of DRK and WAR in pure damage.

[aqskerorokero]

Going to be MT anyway, and pld no longer I dare say any weakness in damage mitigation. If OT the pld's job is to enchance the actuall MT's defence and dealing decent damage.

[Alise]

@Thoro
^So you are saying that Pla has better dps than them both even without spending oath gauge for any dps at all? We will see in-game soon. I don't think that would be the case tho

Btw Pla nuke magic is base on ViT or base on INT? Because Pla has low INT

[Thoro39]

@Thoro
^So you are saying that Pla has better dps than them both even without spending oath gauge for any dps at all? We will see in-game soon. I don't think that would be the case tho

It doesn't matter. Warrior's use their gauge for fellcleave. DRK use their MP&Bloodgauge for Bloodspiller. PLD uses their MP for 480 potency magic nukes.

All Tankclasses have their equivalent nukes gated behind resources whether it be the bar or MP, so they are equal in that regard.
Effectively it actually makes PLD better at stancedancing since the loss of bar means nothing to PLD's dps, whereas a WAR and DRK lose massive amount of DPS by switching Tankstances.

And all Tankattacks are based on Attackdamage (STR). It's NOT based on INT. It never has been that way in this game. Ninja's Magic attacks always scaled with DEX instead of INT for example.

[eagledorf]

Btw Pla nuke magic is base on ViT or base on INT? Because Pla has low INT

PLD spells are all based on STR. They always have been since 3.0 D=

Edit: Well, they're a hybrid of STR+VIT now I guess.

[Thoro39]

They'd never change a tanks damage to INT. There have been several classes like Ninja that use Magic attacks, yet their magic attacks scale to DEX. Even DRKs respective magic attack scaled towards its mainstats, not INT.