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  1. #41
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    InfiniDragon's Avatar
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    Blake Farrence
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    So...these changes are pretty much gutting the job.

    They only get one exclusive physical mitigation cooldown (Shadow Wall) until 70, they removed Foresight which was actually used to pad their already lacking list of cooldowns leaving only Rampart (which is just their old Shadowskin with a worse animation), their damage and self-healing got nerfed, their Blood Gauge is the first thing they get after 60 and means pretty much nothing until 68 because to my knowledge it adds nothing except the use of Quietus and Bloodspiller, and using TBN is arguably a DPS loss.

    I think we're in bad shape unless the new meta in raids doesn't require half as much mitigation CDs as we did previously (which I doubt because then all PLD's new toys wouldn't matter). If we want a chance at getting a reply, unfortunately we're going to have to get loud, obnoxious and meme worthy like the WHM crowd. Otherwise we may get put on the back burner like poor PLD did for an entire expansion.
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  2. #42
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    Rhais's Avatar
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    Sophie Miret-njer
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 85
    DRK looks terrible in SB for multiple reasons and new stats or content isn't likely to change anything. We have enough information now that it isn't some big enigma.
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  3. #43
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    bswpayton's Avatar
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    Nic Pay
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    its bad when a tank has more aoes than df cool downs , like this just doesnt make any sense at all to me the direction they are going in, it seems to me they are just making drk and whm the dungeon tank and healer only. Why does a tank have five aoes, but three df cool downs well four I guess if you count the blackestknight or whatever u call it
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  4. #44
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    Brannigan's Avatar
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    Will Brannigan
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Why wouldn't you count TBN? It's one of your best abilities.
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  5. #45
    Player Jhett_Magnum's Avatar
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    Character
    Zanku Hado
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
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  6. #46
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    Mahono's Avatar
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    Mahono Miyagi
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    Phoenix
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Did it even cross anyone's mind that the Soul Eater change from 100 to 10 is just one less 0 and that it might be a typo? I mean, it doesnt make any sense at all, then again what does when we look to DRK changes.. :thinking:
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  7. #47
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    Goffard Gaffgarion
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 73
    The Blood Price change and bonus Syphon MP-restore in Grit, first hotfix adjustment of SB?

    Hopefully SEater@10% is a tooltip typo.

    Because really, there is no point in it existing if otherwise. But its a believable nerf seeing how much they are trying to strip WAR/DRK of health restores. Devs took offense to the community going 'meh' over Clemency in 3.0, so no healz for you now!

    Dark Passenger wut are they doing to you T^T

    Hopefully DRK gets tinkered with, and more than just halfhearted potency adjustments. Some nuance please (and like.. change Delirium)
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    Last edited by Xenosan; 06-16-2017 at 09:30 AM.

  8. #48
    Player Jhett_Magnum's Avatar
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    Zanku Hado
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    I think it's time we got a PTR. They expect us tanks to stay tanks, and yet none of this crap was what we asked for. Everything about DRK seems tacked on now.
    I can almost garuntee you yoshi-p doesn't care about these threads, because he's waiting for world first clears. If people run PLD/PLD we'll get buffed.
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  9. #49
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    Will Brannigan
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Xenosan View Post
    Because really, there is no point in it existing if otherwise. But its a believable nerf seeing how much they are trying to strip WAR/DRK of health restores. Devs took offense to the community going 'meh' over Clemency in 3.0, so no healz for you now!
    Souleater is either a typo or a dumb change. However, I can't agree that there's some crusade against self healing. Warrior still has Equilibrium intact except for the weaker Berserk. It (appears to? this might be old) still have Storm's Path healing. It still has Inner Beast healing. It still has Thrill of Battle.
    Bloodbath going away is honestly because it was a bad skill. It's trash in real content and decent in stuff that is so trivial you can pull 30 monsters and AOE them down (or in old content you're unsyncing). They had to remove some skills from everyone, and warrior had very few abilities that could even be considered mediocre, so Bloodbath didn't make the cut.
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  10. #50
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    Jugem Mumei
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 37
    WAR's IB healing was nerfed for this patch, though the overall potency of the skill was buffed. I'm not sure if SP was nerfed or not.
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