New stat weights

[Marxam]

Pretty sure Direct Hit is only on DPS equipment, so kinda inconsequential to us tanks.

But you can still meld it. Idk about you but hitting 12.5k direct crits (lvl 69 atm) with berserk FC seems pretty good. If you can stack that into the 6 FC rotation at lvl 70, when that dmg is just gonna get higher than I think we might be on to something. It's also works for Inner Beast and the highest I've hit was 8.2k. That's an 8.2 k which is the equivalent to an Equilibrium. Tenacity seems more like PLD will benefit more from it since the recent buff will most likely secure their place as the king of mitigation in 4.0.

[YokeM]

I put on a piece of i270 slaying gear and it gave me 100% of the STR on it.

Thats strange. I will test this a second time later, maybe I made a mistake.

EDIT: Ahh how dumb. I had, of course, STR melded VIT gear equiped first.

[The_NPC]

From what I saw when I was rebuilding hotbars for my PLD during EA (don't have xpac yet waiting till payday) my one i270 ring had 57 Tenacity on it & temp-removing it dropped my DEF/MDEF by 1 so I assume its roughly 50 Tenacity equalls 1 point of DEF/MDEF (& probably around same in DMG as it affects that too)

Dont' see Tenacity being too good unless u stack a crap ton (Like its on each gear slot giving around 60-ish each) as at end-game 1 eaxtra point of DEF/MDEF isn't much, its something thou which makes it better than what it replaced (Parry)

[Vurtney]

Tenacity is a plain copy of Versatility from warcraft. Does exactly the same thing. Scales lower than any other primary/secondary stat but shines at 20% or higher. That is if Tenacity scales that high.

[Bloodaxe]

From what I saw when I was rebuilding hotbars for my PLD during EA (don't have xpac yet waiting till payday) my one i270 ring had 57 Tenacity on it & temp-removing it dropped my DEF/MDEF by 1 so I assume its roughly 50 Tenacity equalls 1 point of DEF/MDEF (& probably around same in DMG as it affects that too)

Dont' see Tenacity being too good unless u stack a crap ton (Like its on each gear slot giving around 60-ish each) as at end-game 1 eaxtra point of DEF/MDEF isn't much, its something thou which makes it better than what it replaced (Parry)

Just wanted to say that your DEF/MDEF probably dropped by 1 because the i270 accessories give +1 DEF/MDEF.

[Jim_Berry]

But you can still meld it. Idk about you but hitting 12.5k direct crits (lvl 69 atm) with berserk FC seems pretty good. If you can stack that into the 6 FC rotation at lvl 70, when that dmg is just gonna get higher than I think we might be on to something. It's also works for Inner Beast and the highest I've hit was 8.2k. That's an 8.2 k which is the equivalent to an Equilibrium. Tenacity seems more like PLD will benefit more from it since the recent buff will most likely secure their place as the king of mitigation in 4.0.

As a PLD, I have been doing TEN > DHit > DET. My Direct Hit is in the first half of the 400 range, but I can now take more hots, that even a fresh healer won't panic.

This might change once I start getting Tome gear. I'm currently wearing Lv70 AF with non-Lv70 accessories. But then again, I always preferred mitigation > dps on my PLD, so it works out well.

[YitharV2]

As a PLD, I have been doing TEN > DHit > DET. My Direct Hit is in the first half of the 400 range, but I can now take more hots, that even a fresh healer won't panic.

This might change once I start getting Tome gear. I'm currently wearing Lv70 AF with non-Lv70 accessories. But then again, I always preferred mitigation > dps on my PLD, so it works out well.

Based on preliminary testing, I don't think Tenacity is worth it.

http://i.imgur.com/970xcf3.png

That being said, it could change when Omega comes it.

[aleph_null]

Based on preliminary testing, I don't think Tenacity is worth it.

http://i.imgur.com/970xcf3.png

That being said, it could change when Omega comes it.

Direct hit seems to have a flat 25% damage increase when it procs, regardless of how much you increase your stat, and Dervy's tests seem to suggest that the proc rate scales at around 1.8% (0% at base value) per 100 points, so that's around 0.45% overall dps increase per 100 points, based on your dps at 0% direct hit rate. If we take this value (also note that base value of direct hit point is 364) and compare the dps increase between 800 direct hit (1+4.36*0.0045) vs 1100 direct hit (1+7.36*0.0045) we'll get around 1.3% dps increase, which seems to suggest that it scales slower than det.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm dumb when it comes to arithmetic.

Dont' see Tenacity being too good unless u stack a crap ton

Quite the contrary, if it works like det, and possibly direct hit (linear scaling), it will have diminishing returns since it scales based on your base dps at 0 additional tenacity. The only secondary stats that don't suffer from this are crit and skill/spell spd (at least the ones we know thus far), even main stats scale linearly.


Edit: On a random note wearing full slaying lv 60 right side is a really huge boost to tank dps right now, at the cost of around 12k hp. Not very practical to wear them in lv 70 contents but the dps difference on dummies is quite amusing.

[Firesped]

I've been working on a study of Skill Speed. figuring out progression for each level. There are a number of points to be made from this.

Skill Speed is the one stat we can see effect in the game.
What I have observed is with each level. the ungeared base has increased by 1 point.
The next point is this. The base stat is not the starting point. It is not Zero. For skill speed, I was able to determine the first point of shift.
based on the first shift, I can find the second shift.

lvl 70
Base: 364
1st Shift: 381
2nd Shift: 448
.01s = 67 after 381

GCD = 2.50 - rounddown((((SKS-381)/0.01)+0.01);2)

my theory is that everything else uses a similar formula. so 1% would occur at 381 stat level. and every 67 points would be another 1%. so each point is equal to 0.014925373134284~% with a 1377 critical hit, I should have a 14.88% critical hit chance. This is against a target at level 70. targets above or below level 70 alter these percent.

percent = (((STAT - 381)*(0.01/67) +0.01)*100

I'm not sure on DET, as it starts at a lower base.

The only thing I know that is wrong is that 364 is not zero. 314 is zero.

[Falar]

Well, direct hit can be found on tank gear.....old tank gear since it replaced accuracy.

The only way we will get it is via melding it appears, I've yet to see it on a single piece of new tank gear.