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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumbercules View Post
    I wanted them reworked into something meaningful, or gone. They went with gone....ill take that over their current "use". (hell even tanks don't take str anymore since the vit to ap changes :P) Honestly, while i get what you are trying to say, the attribute system was indeed bloat garbage and it offered nothing meaningful to the game to justify even being a thing. (and screwing sch/smn over) Maybe the reworked role system can help with feeling like you have some choices to make now, since the current one of that was pretty bad too but now it offers some "selection" that might be meaningful based on content you are tackling.
    Yeah I know it was too small to matter more often than not, and now SMN and SCH have 1 less thing to worry about, but all I am hoping for is we don't end up all carbon copies of each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    I am hoping for is we don't end up all carbon copies of each other.
    By "end up" do you mean we all already are? And those who aren't a carbon copy are literally less than. People allocated the way they did for a reason, not to be sheeple.

    Is it a sad case? Yes. But you were allocated wrong if you tried to divert away from others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    By "end up" do you mean we all already are? And those who aren't a carbon copy are literally less than. People allocated the way they did for a reason, not to be sheeple.

    Is it a sad case? Yes. But you were allocated wrong if you tried to divert away from others.
    I am well aware of the meta, but there is truly no right or wrong way to play provided you are not guaranteeing failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    I am well aware of the meta, but there is truly no right or wrong way to play provided you are not guaranteeing failure.
    Normally I'd agree with you if our stats gave more than they do. It's not like an off-meta pick in a MOBA where they may bring something unique to the table. It's a generic stat increase where there is a right and wrong way to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Normally I'd agree with you if our stats gave more than they do. It's not like an off-meta pick in a MOBA where they may bring something unique to the table. It's a generic stat increase where there is a right and wrong way to do it.
    Well sure if you like dumped all your Ninja points into INT or something then that would be a case where it was wrong lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    Well sure if you like dumped all your Ninja points into INT or something then that would be a case where it was wrong lol
    And that's exactly what you're referring to as customization. Putting stats in the wrong place. It's a sad state of affairs-sure. But it was an illusion of choice at best and a noob-trap at worst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    And that's exactly what you're referring to as customization. Putting stats in the wrong place. It's a sad state of affairs-sure. But it was an illusion of choice at best and a noob-trap at worst.
    We did have The Keeper's Hymn to remedy such mistakes though. In the end it boiled down to 2 or 3 choices (if you actually cared to invest in Piety as a caster or healer) of what to do with the points. People just tended to add the extra into their main stat which, along with the SMN/SCH issue, is no doubt why they've been removed. That and the on-going effort to remove 1.0 features lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    Yeah I know it was too small to matter more often than not, and now SMN and SCH have 1 less thing to worry about, but all I am hoping for is we don't end up all carbon copies of each other.
    If that few stat points was make or break between being carbon copies or not we are in some serious trouble. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramina View Post
    If that few stat points was make or break between being carbon copies or not we are in some serious trouble. :P
    Well we still have our selection of role actions, even though most people will likely use the same ones anyway lol
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