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    Joe777's Avatar
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    I think you are all missing the point of this thread, except for Dustytome. It's about a loss of free customization, no matter how small, and not about judging how I or anyone else used the points. Sure people tended to dump them into the job's main stat anyway but still we had a choice, and now we don't.
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    Guildmaster of Power With Numbers (PWN) on Coeurl in Aether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    It's about a loss of free customization, no matter how small, and not about judging how I or anyone else used the points.
    It wasn't customization though, there was a right way and a wrong way to spend them. That's not customizing, that's a noob-trap (Excuse the term).
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    Surukana Humora
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    umm...wha?

    If you want to customize simply meld materia with that stat attached this way your base attributes are whatever they are you can still benefit/gimp yourself as you like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scars_Humora View Post
    If you want to customize simply meld materia with that stat attached this way your base attributes are whatever they are you can still benefit/gimp yourself as you like.
    Yeah there is still materia so as I said previously I could've been more specific with the title lol
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    Guildmaster of Power With Numbers (PWN) on Coeurl in Aether.

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    Good riddance. Everyone came down on you hard if you didn't just slot how you were expected to anyhow.
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    I'm glad they took that away. Now people are incapacitated from attempting stupid builds, and the rest won't have to allocate one main stat every level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    I think you are all missing the point of this thread, except for Dustytome. It's about a loss of free customization, no matter how small, and not about judging how I or anyone else used the points. Sure people tended to dump them into the job's main stat anyway but still we had a choice, and now we don't.
    The stat bonus thing in this game was illusion of choice outside for PvP and since PvP is being changed, there is no need for healers wear vit gear or change stat points. Removing it is fine
    Real choices > not existing > illusion of choice.

    The reason for waiting to remove illusion of choice is to get rid of noob traps (I/e wide volley spamming brds)
    Quote Originally Posted by Revanslave View Post
    This pretty much sums up my reaction.
    This or the Ezma kitty laugh from emperor's new groove lol

    ?
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    Last edited by Hamada; 06-16-2017 at 03:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamada View Post
    The reason for waiting to remove illusion of choice is to get rid of noob traps (I/e wide volley spamming brds)
    Well, get ready for their popcorn cone to only hit half the mob because they aren't standing close enough or for them to switch directions and shoot it off nowhere instead because they don't have to cast anymore. The only real disadvantage to wide volley is additional TP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by savageink View Post
    Well, get ready for their popcorn cone to only hit half the mob because they aren't standing close enough or for them to switch directions and shoot it off nowhere instead because they don't have to cast anymore. The only real disadvantage to wide volley is additional TP.
    They'll learn positioning, and the second is mechanically very difficult to pull off even when trying to - you either turn toward the mob you're trying to hit anyway (if the option to automatically face the target when performing an action is turned on) or can't use the ability, and once it's pressed even if you turn your character around the attack hits the area you were facing...in other words, the pack of mobs. The only way you'll face the "wrong" way is by targeting an enemy in the wrong spot and attacking them...which goes back to proper positioning, which they'll learn.
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    Drae Wellenbrecher
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    I think you are all missing the point of this thread, except for Dustytome. It's about a loss of free customization, no matter how small, and not about judging how I or anyone else used the points. Sure people tended to dump them into the job's main stat anyway but still we had a choice, and now we don't.
    There was no choice, or you put them in your main stat or you don't know what your job is about.
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