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    Xinni Sacerdos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiops View Post
    Sorry if this was already discussed, but do we have an idea of a optimal opener yet?
    I did a little bit of analysis of the worst and best case scenarios (no procs vs all procs). TLDR: Acceleration and Swiftcast Aero/Thunder will guarantee you hit 40/40 mana in 8 gcds instead of 9, whether or not you pre-cast Jolt or Thunder/Aero. Pre-casting Acceleration + Thunder/Aero gives you a chance of hitting 40/40 with only 7 gcds if you get all the Verready procs. Note that you only should use Swiftcast in the opening when you don't get procs on the DC Thunder/Aero, to avoid eating procs (eatting a proc wastes the SC).

    Acceleration assumed in all cases, and I left out the other oGCDs for simplicity, just looking at how quickly you can get to 40/40 for Manafication into Melee combo.

    Please look over this and see if I made any errors. These aren't set in stone, they're just examples of worst/best case procs.

    Jolt Opener, No Swiftcast, No Procs:
    Pre-cast Jolt 3/3 (Black mana/White mana)
    --
    DC Thunder 14/3
    HC Fire 23/3
    DC Aero 23/14
    HC Impact 27/18
    DC Aero 27/29
    HC Jolt 30/32
    DC Thunder 41/32
    HC Impact 45/36
    DC Aero 45/47

    9 GCDs, 92 mana,

    Jolt Opener, With Swiftcast, No Procs:
    Pre-cast Jolt 3/3
    --
    DC Thunder 14/3
    SC Aero 14/14
    HC Fire 23/14
    DC Aero 23/25
    HC Impact 27/29
    DC Aero 27/40
    HC Jolt 30/43
    DC Thunder 41/43

    8 GCDs, 84 mana

    Thunder Opener, No Swiftcast, No Procs:
    Pre-cast Thunder 11/0
    --
    DC Aero 11/11
    HC Fire 20/11
    DC Aero 20/22
    HC Jolt 23/25
    DC Thunder 34/25
    HC Impact 38/29
    DC Aero 38/40
    HC Jolt 41/43
    DC Thunder 51/43 (overcapping to 50/43)

    8 GCDs, 84 Mana (Skipping DC)
    9 GCDs, 93 Mana

    Thunder Opener, With Swiftcast, No Procs:
    Pre-cast Thunder 11/0
    --
    DC Aero 11/11
    SC Aero 11/22
    HC Fire 20/22
    DC Thunder 31/22
    HC Jolt 34/25
    DC Aero 34/36
    HC Impact 38/40
    DC Thunder 49/40

    8 GCDs, 89 Mana

    Jolt Opener, No Swiftcast, All Procs:
    Pre-cast Jolt 3/3
    --
    DC Thunder 14/3
    HC Fire 23/3
    DC Aero 23/14
    HC Stone 23/23
    DC Thunder 34/23
    HC Fire 43/23
    DC Aero 43/34
    HC Stone 43/43
    DC Thunder 54/43 (capping to 50/43)

    8 GCDS, 86 Mana (skipping DC)
    9 GCDs, 93 mana

    Jolt Opener, With Swiftcast, All Procs:
    Pre-cast Jolt 3/3
    --
    DC Thunder 14/3
    SC Aero 14/14
    HC Fire 23/14
    DC Thunder 34/14
    HC Stone 34/23
    DC Aero 34/34
    HC Fire 43/34
    DC Aero 43/45 (possibly wastes stone proc)

    8 GCDs, 88 Mana

    Thunder Opener, No Swiftcast, All Procs:
    Pre-cast Thunder 11/0
    --
    DC Aero 11/11
    HC Fire 20/11
    DC Thunder 31/11
    HC Stone 31/20
    DC Aero 31/31
    HC Fire 40/31
    DC Aero 40/42 (possibly wastes stone proc)

    7 GCDs, 82 Mana
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    Last edited by Sacerdos; 06-21-2017 at 03:38 AM.