Seeing Red - A Complete Red Mage Guide

[Talec]

It's not as it would be that complicated. First class I feel like there is no guide needed. RDM Gameplay is very straightforward. Tough I like it.

[Vallhallix]

I finally found my second class to switch between when I get a little fatigue from SMN. Second main confirmed!

[Garotte14]

Wanted to give a quick update. As most are probably already aware, the Enchanted Melee Combo is buffed by Embolden which is very significant.

[Silverquick]

Yeah I finally got it up to 60th level... and wow this thing is really impressive.

Red Mage is a serious DPS machine.

[Dualblade]

So far been enjoying the class, had already planned to switch over and main it when it was announced as it is. Wish I was a bit higher so I could finally get my "Holy or Flare" thing down since with the simulater my brain just could not remember which to use when it was time.

Got this thread subscriped to try and be a good.

Question: Would using Corps-a-corps and Displacment inbetween GCDs be worthwhile if you know they will be back up in time for the melee combo, say when you will be using Manaification soon?

[Hasrat]

I got paired with a RDM in Pharos Sirius NM earlier, and I just got to wonder, is your damage output insane or something? We had a tank doing small pulls, so groups weren't huge, but I'm not sure I've ever seen stuff melt so fast.

[Rinuko]

I got paired with a RDM in Pharos Sirius NM earlier, and I just got to wonder, is your damage output insane or something? We had a tank doing small pulls, so groups weren't huge, but I'm not sure I've ever seen stuff melt so fast.

I'm starting to get more used to play RDM now but yeah DMG can be insane when you comfortable with the skills and "rotation". I was having so fun in the L63 dungeon last night and was pulling hate so much from the Paladin

[Silverquick]

I'm starting to get more used to play RDM now but yeah DMG can be insane when you comfortable with the skills and "rotation". I was having so fun in the L63 dungeon last night and was pulling hate so much from the Paladin

Yeah its seriously insane DPS.

I don't even have Jolt 2 yet (60th level here), but just Jolt 1 + VerAero/VerThunder is a 480 potency attack. Then when you have VerStone or VerFire pop and replace it with Jolt on your next cast its 570 potency dual casted damage.

Not even bringing up the major DPS from the melee combo, or the other OCDs. Just the base output is incredible.

At first I thought there was no way the AoE could compete, but we're literally doing 400 potency in AoEs every 5 seconds by spamming Scatter.

While I'm still not sure how this will shake out vs BLM in single target, it's going to be awful close. Leaving SMN at the bottom of the pile in both Single Target and AoE. They never should have nerfed SMN.

That said... RDM is also more free form, so it will be hard to ever form a set rotation for it, meaning it will be hard to just teach this one or have a set pattern to do things in.

I am seriously considering switching to this as a Main at this point.

[Rbstr]

This is sort of semantics but it really needs to be pointed out again, since it can lead to people getting on the wrong track for damage calculations: dual cast spells still trigger the GCD. It's not like you're getting free spells in there, its just the difference of them hitting at the start or end of the gcd. Jolt+ VerAero/Thunder is NOT a 480 pot attack. That combo averages to 240pot over two gcds.
Dual cast is pretty convenient in a few ways but the increase in dps from dual cast only comes from verthunder/aero having hard-cast times that are longer than the GCD.


It really remains to be seen exactly how good the RDM dps is but I'm pretty sure they didn't drop something OP on us with this one. Like, I don't know the exact average potency but Blackmage is chucking lots of FireIV at 260+the Astral Fire Buff. RDM's average is about 270.
BLM vs. RDM comes down to this:
BLM's main rotation is certainly higher damage (fireIV is a good bit more damage than RDM's "rotational" spells)
BLM's burst phase is lower than RDM's (Foul is 650, they only get it once per 30sec, RDM's melee averages 380 over its 4gcd)
BLM has a bit of a lull-phase during umbral ice.

So RDM can "catch up" to the BLM's more steady high damage through its ability to burst with the melee combo.

[ColeSlawter]

Hey, I normally just lurk and see what you all come up with for rotations/openers but I hadn't seen this mentioned and wanted to throw it out to see what others think.

What about Vercure on yourself (or party member) before pull to get Dualcast for first cast?