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  1. #31
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    Draxxion's Avatar
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    Draco'li Tayuun
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    I am liking RDM so far. It has a very interesting casting priority (it isn't a rotation as it comes down to balancing the mana) and you have a lot of planning in advance you have to do as you need to know your next move in advance and adjust to any procs (verstone or verfire mainly) on the fly and make sure you are weaving in Fleche, cooldowns, and other such abilities. Sadly though I have only done the rotation on target dummies because I wanted to do the RDM job quest, but can't as it is personal instance that kept disconnecting me. But, so far it has a good rhythm and been fun. Going to post my opening so I can see if I got it right.

    1) If up Verstone or Verfire then go to step 5.
    2) If those are not up Jolt
    3) Which ever is lowest or if at 0 mana each which ever I want to start with of Veraero if white mana is lowest or Verthunder if black mana is lowest as a duelcast
    4) If a proc occurs then hard cast what has procced of Verstone of Verfire.
    5) Follow that up with a duelcast of the opposite mana spell to the one I started with (Verstone > Verthunder or Verfire > Veraero)
    6) Rinse and repeat step 4 if another proc occurs and go into step 5 again, if no proc then go back to step 2, or if enough mana go into Melee Combo

    In between casts I am using Fleche for extra damage and Acceleration to help get a proc. At 80 or above mana I then got into melee combo of Corps-a-corps > Riposte > Zwerchhau > Redoublement > Displacement. Rinse and repeat.
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    Last edited by Draxxion; 06-17-2017 at 11:02 PM.

  2. #32
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    Silverquick's Avatar
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    Silverquick Fox
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    This thing is surprisingly good... very bursty as some have put it.

    And the AoE is a lot better than previously believed. Because of Dual Casting its about like doing repeated Painflares. Its single target is very deceptive. Mostly because its incredibly fast. Add in the Vercure dual cast and its amazingly strong.

    I was jammed up on the MSQ so decided to go back and level this thing... and It has surprised me.
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  3. #33
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    Talec's Avatar
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    Violet Drakarys
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    It's not as it would be that complicated. First class I feel like there is no guide needed. RDM Gameplay is very straightforward. Tough I like it.
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  4. #34
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    Vallhallix's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Character
    Urdnot Rekt
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    I finally found my second class to switch between when I get a little fatigue from SMN. Second main confirmed!
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  5. #35
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    Garotte14's Avatar
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    Character
    Alayna Lazriel
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Wanted to give a quick update. As most are probably already aware, the Enchanted Melee Combo is buffed by Embolden which is very significant.
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  6. #36
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    Silverquick's Avatar
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    Silverquick Fox
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Yeah I finally got it up to 60th level... and wow this thing is really impressive.

    Red Mage is a serious DPS machine.
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  7. #37
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    Silverquick's Avatar
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    Silverquick Fox
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    VerAero
    VerAero
    Swiftcast
    Fleche
    Veraero if no stone proc verthunder if proc
    Acceleration
    Contresixte
    Stone or fire proc if not jolt
    Verthunder
    Corps displacement lucid dreaming during free weave times
    Verfire
    Get both above 40, manafiction
    Corps, Enchanted riposte, int pot enchanted zer, embolden enchanted redouble, flare holy

    Is my rough guess. :] doesn't matter if you use thunder or aero to open.
    That's not what I've been doing,

    While it can work... generally here you're looking at in general is

    Jolt + VerAero/Verthunder depending on which one you need to fill your guage with.

    The casting time is really short for Jolt, so you dual cast potency 180 + 300 for a 480 potency per, thats the normal attack.

    Then if VerStone or VerFire pops, you use that in place of Jolt for 270 + 300 = 570 potency per single target attack.

    And usually you open with Fleche which is free instant cast and 420 potency and on a 25 second recast. Or use it in between your first Jolt combo either way...

    The Single Target damage this thing puts out is enormous. This thing is matching my BLM single target damage.

    For AoE its also pretty good at least as of 60th.

    Basically you're dual casting Scatter for 100 + 100 potency for 200 potency per cast. Then you throw in Contre Sixte on top of it for 300 potency AoE. Its much better AoE than previously believed. I didnt think this thing had any at all until I actually played it. And you can just sit and spam cast Dual Scatters the whole time.

    I think people totally underestimated the Dual Cast feature of this thing.

    I'm at level 60 and have only scratched the surface... but already I am dropping my jaw over the thing.

    And that's not even getting into the Corps-a-corps>Riposte> Zwerchhau> Redoublement>Displacement combo... which is the quick jump in, slash them up and jump back out manuever, because each one of these attacks is fast and builds off the last one you did.
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  8. #38
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    Dualblade's Avatar
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    Character
    Juyon Intoner
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    So far been enjoying the class, had already planned to switch over and main it when it was announced as it is. Wish I was a bit higher so I could finally get my "Holy or Flare" thing down since with the simulater my brain just could not remember which to use when it was time.

    Got this thread subscriped to try and be a good.

    Question: Would using Corps-a-corps and Displacment inbetween GCDs be worthwhile if you know they will be back up in time for the melee combo, say when you will be using Manaification soon?
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    Last edited by Dualblade; 06-19-2017 at 12:24 PM.

  9. #39
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    Volatile's Avatar
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    Character
    Khona Rhiki
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 56
    Anyone else finding swiftcast to be a little awkward to use? Duelcast won't proc off of a swiftcasted spell, so I've been doing without. Should I try and work it back in?
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  10. #40
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    Hasrat's Avatar
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    Character
    Hashmael Lightswain
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    I got paired with a RDM in Pharos Sirius NM earlier, and I just got to wonder, is your damage output insane or something? We had a tank doing small pulls, so groups weren't huge, but I'm not sure I've ever seen stuff melt so fast.
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