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    Alayna Lazriel
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by JnCrWe View Post
    Excellent guide. I've seen and read a lot about RDM gameplay already, but the guide still made things clearer to me.

    As a minor nitpick, the description of Manafication in this guide implies it increases black/white mana gain; whereas the italicized text below that, and the description on the official job guide, state that it doubles current levels.
    Yeah I was waiting for official description from SE for that. I will edit. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    Question now is are the potencies correct in the tooltips? Some players had already pointed out some translation errors.
    Ah well we will see in a bit
    Potencies should all be the same. The only changes I've seen so far from the media tour has been Embolden being 10% magic instead of 20%, and the diminishing returns of Contre Sixte's AoE.
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    Alayna Lazriel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    How are you guys feeling about the support aspects of RDM compared to Bard and Machinist?
    Rbstr hit the nail on the head. RDM will have some utility with its cure and raise, but those are more for emergencies. I.E. healer dies in dungeon, you get to save the day with a raise and heal the tank to prevent a wipe.

    Other than instances like that, you should be focused purely on dealing damage.
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Garotte14 View Post
    Rbstr hit the nail on the head. RDM will have some utility with its cure and raise, but those are more for emergencies. I.E. healer dies in dungeon, you get to save the day with a raise and heal the tank to prevent a wipe.

    Other than instances like that, you should be focused purely on dealing damage.
    When prog starts to become farm and we switch over to solo healing strats, RDM might become a real option as an off healer. One or two Vercures the entire fight and their micro-benediction that is Erase on that sweet 90 second cool down. Either way it is going to be an awesome experience. The best part about 2.0 and 3.0 healers were their ability to really shape the future of an encounter. The strong control over survivability and DPS. Its strangly refreshing to see an inverse of thise. Strong innate DPS with some control over survivability.

    An "emergency" healer as a caster dps is so fascinating.
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    Bardo Phor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garotte14 View Post
    RDM will have some utility with its cure and raise, but those are more for emergencies.
    Things go wrong fairly often in this game though.
    I think you guys might be underestimating just how amazing this utility could be due to Dualcast and Swiftcast.
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    Sephorai Sertorius
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    Ultros
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    Thanks! I'll try to crunch some numbers myself after my final today. I'd like to help out since this class brought me back to the game. I love gishes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    Things go wrong fairly often in this game though.
    I think you guys might be underestimating just how amazing this utility could be due to Dualcast and Swiftcast.
    The only point is, use in case of emergencies. You shouldn't be backseat healing or wasting any GCD you could have spent dpsing. To use it as an "Oh Shit" button is fine. But to waste mana on a raise or cure when your healers can do that would be very wrong.
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    I've done it. It took all damn day but I hit 60
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    Draco'li Tayuun
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    I am liking RDM so far. It has a very interesting casting priority (it isn't a rotation as it comes down to balancing the mana) and you have a lot of planning in advance you have to do as you need to know your next move in advance and adjust to any procs (verstone or verfire mainly) on the fly and make sure you are weaving in Fleche, cooldowns, and other such abilities. Sadly though I have only done the rotation on target dummies because I wanted to do the RDM job quest, but can't as it is personal instance that kept disconnecting me. But, so far it has a good rhythm and been fun. Going to post my opening so I can see if I got it right.

    1) If up Verstone or Verfire then go to step 5.
    2) If those are not up Jolt
    3) Which ever is lowest or if at 0 mana each which ever I want to start with of Veraero if white mana is lowest or Verthunder if black mana is lowest as a duelcast
    4) If a proc occurs then hard cast what has procced of Verstone of Verfire.
    5) Follow that up with a duelcast of the opposite mana spell to the one I started with (Verstone > Verthunder or Verfire > Veraero)
    6) Rinse and repeat step 4 if another proc occurs and go into step 5 again, if no proc then go back to step 2, or if enough mana go into Melee Combo

    In between casts I am using Fleche for extra damage and Acceleration to help get a proc. At 80 or above mana I then got into melee combo of Corps-a-corps > Riposte > Zwerchhau > Redoublement > Displacement. Rinse and repeat.
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    Last edited by Draxxion; 06-17-2017 at 11:02 PM.

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    Silverquick Fox
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    This thing is surprisingly good... very bursty as some have put it.

    And the AoE is a lot better than previously believed. Because of Dual Casting its about like doing repeated Painflares. Its single target is very deceptive. Mostly because its incredibly fast. Add in the Vercure dual cast and its amazingly strong.

    I was jammed up on the MSQ so decided to go back and level this thing... and It has surprised me.
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