Seeing Red - A Complete Red Mage Guide

[Cyriac]

So i didnt go through the 30 or so pages of post so this may have been stated elsewhere but...
You should really change the name of the guide to Verguide

[Maero]

I would say DH is of higher value then crit, i have not done too many tests though.
My thoughts were for Red Mage, DH>Crit>Det

[KfLeX]

I haven't done much pve Red Mage, but in pvp it's so fun I'm hooked now hehe

[Karnage720]

Not sure if mentioned before. But I've seen where people say use verthunder/veraero pre pull. Why not use vercure prepull and then vertunder or veraero? Wouldn't that be a bigger dps gain that a hard cast verthunder pre pull?

[MelvinK]

Not sure if mentioned before. But I've seen where people say use verthunder/veraero pre pull. Why not use vercure prepull and then vertunder or veraero? Wouldn't that be a bigger dps gain that a hard cast verthunder pre pull?

No.. u miss the intention of prepull.

Casting pre pull mean u save those casting time before combat start.

in this case, ver thunder follow by ver aero is straight up 300+300 = 600 potency at the first 1 second of the fight while,

based on ur suggestion, u r dealing 300 potenty only. So ur suggestion is dealing doubly less than commonly accepted opener.

The key word is casting pre pull, dont even think about hard casting verthunder/veraero if tank do not honour the countdown timer and do a pull before countdown ends (before u cast anything)

[Stormblessed9000]

Not sure if mentioned before. But I've seen where people say use verthunder/veraero pre pull. Why not use vercure prepull and then vertunder or veraero? Wouldn't that be a bigger dps gain that a hard cast verthunder pre pull?

To clarify what MelvinK said, the problem with what you suggest is that you'd be hit by the GCD after you do your dual cast ver spell. As the GCD starts when you press the button, if you hard-cast it pre pull then the GCD would be finished before the spell is even cast, allowing you to go straight into another spell

[KaisaaVonFaust]

Hey guys so I was wonder what you guys think. I have my crit to about 1700, DH 1600, and spell speed to about 2.32 GCD speed. I have gotten comfortable with the faster GCD and overall the casting feels quicker. But should I really reconsider the SPS and put more into crit?

[JMadFour]

so I hit 70 today, and man..Verholy is one pretty spell. both the animation and the spell effect make Verflare look kinda plain by comparison.

[Maero]

I still use Addle it has it's uses, and does not really cut into rotation all too much

[Wolf_Gang]

What's an optimal opener without prepull hardcasts?

Sometimes there are short pulls without a countdown.