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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyroclastic View Post
    Are you sure that for 3 targets it's not better to keep doing the normal ST rotation, so you fill your mana faster, so you can do Enchanted Moulinet faster?

    And what about a hybrid rotation for 3 targets? Scatter + verthunder, scatter+ veraero, repeat until enough mana for Enchanted Moulinet. (not using verfire/verstone until 2 targets or less)

    What would be the math behind this? I would really like to know what the DEFINITE optimal rotation is for 3 targets ...

    http://i.imgur.com/mM2GpAb.png



    At 60.5s, hybrid targeting is the same as scatter with no procs. However, at that point, the hybrid RDM is ready with another Enchanted Moulinet while the unluckyAoE RDM is only at 9|9.

    The unluckyST RDM is slightly behind the unluckyAoE RDM, but the loved by the Gods ST RDM is slightly ahead.

    Best case scenario is the obnoxiously lucky AoE RDM, who is about 10% ahead of the lucky ST RDM.


    I would recommend going with the hybrid targeting option, with Enhanced Scatter when possible, because this will probably work out better than single targetting. The upper bound for your p/s is 10% higher, and it only requires you to be lucky some of the time instead of every single time.

    Note that

    A) Scatter->Verslowspell->EnhancedScatter->Verslowspell is +22|+22
    and
    B) Scatter->EnhancedScatter->Scatter->EnhancedScatter is also +22|+22

    but
    C) Scatter->EnhancedScatter->Scatter(no proc)->Verslowspell is +25|+14

    So I would recommend (A) because it's definitely +22|+22, whereas (B) is not guaranteed and can drop to (C).
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    Last edited by Rongway; 07-09-2017 at 09:33 AM.
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    Rebecca Serenade
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    Just a note about races, with the removal of piety they have changed racial stats slightly. Theorycrafters have worked out a couple of the racial stat changes but not all of them. So those values should be subject to change.
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    a good read. gonna re read this a few times before early access.
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    Thank you so much for posting this!
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    Arianne Lefihna
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    Thank you!
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    Alexander Timelender
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    From datamining (should be on reddit), it seems that rdm's kit will be the same at release.
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    Question now is are the potencies correct in the tooltips? Some players had already pointed out some translation errors.
    Ah well we will see in a bit
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    Does anyone have any idea at what the opener will be?
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    Josthir Rothisson
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    Excellent guide. I've seen and read a lot about RDM gameplay already, but the guide still made things clearer to me.

    As a minor nitpick, the description of Manafication in this guide implies it increases black/white mana gain; whereas the italicized text below that, and the description on the official job guide, state that it doubles current levels.
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    Last edited by JnCrWe; 06-16-2017 at 02:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephorai View Post
    Does anyone have any idea at what the opener will be?

    VerAero
    VerAero
    Swiftcast
    Fleche
    Veraero if no stone proc verthunder if proc
    Acceleration
    Contresixte
    Stone or fire proc if not jolt
    Verthunder
    Corps displacement lucid dreaming during free weave times
    Verfire
    Get both above 40, manafiction
    Corps, Enchanted riposte, int pot enchanted zer, embolden enchanted redouble, flare holy

    Is my rough guess. :] doesn't matter if you use thunder or aero to open.
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 06-16-2017 at 02:53 PM.

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