An alternative to parsers...

[YitharV2]

And everyone who can't reach a certain level will be shunned.

They should just give us personal parsers. You can only see how you yourself are doing.

Sounds like skip soar tbh.

https://youtu.be/ARSAs3sjLnI?t=2m48s

[Fredco191]

DPS 1: Heh heh! I'm glowin'!
Paladin: ....DPS 2. why aren't you glowing?
DPS 2: Uh.. Give me a sec I just need to use-

[Whoever Thatwas has been dismissed from the duty]

[Smol]

While this is a cool idea in theory, it would probably not work super well in practice due to the myriad reasons provided by other posters.

There is really no reason not to include a personal parser at the very least, however. In a game that often employs DPS checks in many fights, it is beneficial to know where you stand, and parsing your numbers can also help you strive to optimize your rotation, etc. Arguments against including something that tracks just your own damage seem woefully uninformed if not willfully ignorant.

To say that you shouldn't care about your DPS in XIV is simply asinine.

[DRHaymaker]

They do if they haven't seen the mechanics for themselves.

I don't care if you refuse to concede the point, the point stands; not every MMO has learning parties, therefore not everyone needs them, therefore, not everyone needs help.

You later mention PUGs, which has no bearing here since you have created or joined a party that clearly outlines the expectations.

...those expectations you elude to are the very idea that elitist ideas already are in the game, which you are proving time and time again.

You just happen to dislike it. That isn't a elitism.

You seem to have a selective reading problem. Hold on, let me quote it for you...

I'm not advocating for anything - people can and will do whatever they want, as it is within their rights.

To make it easier for you to understand - do whatever you want. It doesn't affect me. That doesn't make your ideology any less elitist.

[TaleraRistain]

Good God, no. Give this community a visual cue on who has low DPS?

[Inuk9]

Personal parsers, period.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I don't care if you refuse to concede the point, the point stands; not every MMO has learning parties, therefore not everyone needs them, therefore, not everyone needs help.



...those expectations you elude to are the very idea that elitist ideas already are in the game, which you are proving time and time again.



You seem to have a selective reading problem. Hold on, let me quote it for you...

I have nothing to concede because your definition of elitism... is not elitism. Who cares what other MMOs have or do? All that matters is FFXIV and how it handles content. If you don't need a learning party and feel confident in your ability to down the fight, you join a clear group. That is the sole intent; getting a clear.

Those expectations are how the community divvies content based on skill level. While you will inevitably come across bad players in supposed farm groups, it lowers the odds since you have assurance everyone has seen the mechanics in the actual game.

And no. You merely seem to believe farm parties are made up of elitists because they don't want people who haven't cleared the fight yet in their party. No matter how many times you insist otherwise, that isn't elitism.

[DemonwrathDeathreign]

I say we ask Square Enix to do what Enmass is doing for Tera, ban all 3rd party tools and put a program in servers that detects and reports it to them! #RipParcers!

[DRHaymaker]

Who cares what other MMOs have or do? All that matters is FFXIV and how it handles content.

There's fundamentally nothing different from a clear and learning party - both are attempting the same thing.

Those expectations are how the community divvies content based on skill level.

Clear = ilvl when it comes to quantifying one's skill. Both are equally flimsy.

While you will inevitably come across bad players in supposed farm groups, it lowers the odds since you have assurance everyone has seen the mechanics in the actual game.

Yet still, multitudes fail many "stack here" mechanics.

AYou merely seem to believe farm parties are made up of elitists because they don't want people who haven't cleared the fight yet in their party.

All of them? No. Do they noticeably exist? Absolutely.

No matter how many times you insist otherwise, that isn't elitism.

No matter how many times you insist other wise, doesn't mean there isn't a degree of elitism.