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    Player ErikMynhier's Avatar
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    Erik Mynhier
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I find the whole storm over WHM hilarious. Lilies boost recast of utility spells, confessions boost things, WHM is "pure healer".


    Watch all the complaints vanish when we find out the raids have mechanics that make WHM top healer, glass cannon bosses or something like that.
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    Nicodemus Mercy
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    I find the whole storm over WHM hilarious. Lilies boost recast of utility spells, confessions boost things, WHM is "pure healer".


    Watch all the complaints vanish when we find out the raids have mechanics that make WHM top healer, glass cannon bosses or something like that.
    There can be no content that requires a WHM to complete. Let that sink in. There can be NO CONTENT WHATSOEVER that can't be completed with an AST/SCH. Given that fact (and it IS a fact), why bring a WHM when you can bring an AST (20% more damage to the group) and a SCH (20% more crit to the group vs the boss)?
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    How many men am I involved with? Well that depends... do you mean men as in males? Or just midlanders?

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    Player ErikMynhier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy View Post
    There can be no content that requires a WHM to complete. Let that sink in. There can be NO CONTENT WHATSOEVER that can't be completed with an AST/SCH. Given that fact (and it IS a fact), why bring a WHM when you can bring an AST (20% more damage to the group) and a SCH (20% more crit to the group vs the boss)?
    Idk man. I don't really care either. End of the day its the player. BiS class can be garbage in the wrong hands. So who cares.
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    Ahnohla Mujuuk
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    Idk man. I don't really care either. End of the day its the player. BiS class can be garbage in the wrong hands. So who cares.

    And I doubt people recruiting for a static are going to actually say "I know we need a healer but you are a WHM so we would just rather not raid than take a WHM."
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    Vulcwen Mhasi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramina View Post
    And I doubt people recruiting for a static are going to actually say "I know we need a healer but you are a WHM so we would just rather not raid than take a WHM."
    That's the thing, if there is no competition in the community, slight balance differences don't matter that much. As long as each combination is capable of clearing, and it's actually hard to find people for a static, people will just take anyone that would fit in the group. If there is a lot of competition out there, and there is even more due to cross-world PF, people will be demanding more.
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    Victoria_Silverdawn's Avatar
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    Victoria Silverdawn
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    Louisoix
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    Idk man. I don't really care either. End of the day its the player. BiS class can be garbage in the wrong hands. So who cares.
    It doesn't matter if the player is good or not... people will choose what can bring more to a fight... and right now WHM has just strong heals, and some quick heals... and people may lock them out, they may not... SE designs it so every job can complete the content... we choose what we want.
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    Ayer Austen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victoria_Silverdawn View Post
    It doesn't matter if the player is good or not... people will choose what can bring more to a fight... and right now WHM has just strong heals, and some quick heals... and people may lock them out, they may not... SE designs it so every job can complete the content... we choose what we want.
    Just raid with your friends and not elitist a**holes....
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    The only thing in the april build that was not final was the numbers game. The lily system and what it brings are here too stay for the rest of SB, how well the system works is going to depend on how they tune it.
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    Note: Taking advice from a players alt, is like taking advice from a voice in a dark room. Criticism is a two way street remember that!!

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    Elim Lovecraft
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    I see no way for cure 1 and 2 spam to be a thing unless they really pump up the healing needed for most content(even tuned up it would still flop unless it was done in a certain way). But from the SB content I've seen so far, it doesn't look like they did. It looks like we'll be able to cover 99% of dungeon etc healing with HoTs again. Maybe I'll be surprised and healing will be well... more about healing than DPS...but I need to stay pessimistic to avoid being disappointed.
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    Last edited by Elim; 06-15-2017 at 06:32 AM. Reason: typo
    Recently returned player.

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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    I find the whole storm over WHM hilarious. Lilies boost recast of utility spells, confessions boost things, WHM is "pure healer".


    Watch all the complaints vanish when we find out the raids have mechanics that make WHM top healer, glass cannon bosses or something like that.
    Even if that was the case, why would WHM be more sought after?
    Their new and only mitigation is locked behind lilies, and their AOE heal that only effects confession holders is locked behind 20% RNG.
    Why would you want a WHm healing something that does huge amounts of damage? They're too unpredictable. Better to have a AST with comparable heals do it.
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