[Dev Request] Brand New RP Servers

[HyperSMB]

First off: I do not RP. I would never do so AND I am 100% turned off from both an immersion standpoint and an enjoyment stadpoint by RP.

That being said, RP players DESERVE their own place to be able to RP without having to worry about people like me. There really is zero reason during a MAJOR transition like this not to in some way accomodate them. Either:

A) Designate an existing server as RP and then offer free transfers to and from it.

or

B) Establish an RP specialty server per data center.

Both of these solve a long running issue in a game briming with enough lore to justify an RP scene.

[DamianFatale]

First off: I do not RP. I would never do so AND I am 100% turned off from both an immersion standpoint and an enjoyment stadpoint by RP.

That being said, RP players DESERVE their own place to be able to RP without having to worry about people like me. There really is zero reason during a MAJOR transition like this not to in some way accomodate them. Either:

A) Designate an existing server as RP and then offer free transfers to and from it.

or

B) Establish an RP specialty server per data center.

Both of these solve a long running issue in a game briming with enough lore to justify an RP scene.

Exactly. Every region has an RP community. I believe that a server for each one is justified.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Exactly. Every region has an RP community. I believe that a server for each one is justified.

What happens when those RPers expect the rules of an RP server, and then enter DF, where these rules do not apply? I sure hope they don't expect to RP their way through dungeons.

[HyperSMB]

What happens when those RPers expect the rules of an RP server, and then enter DF, where these rules do not apply? I sure hope they don't expect to RP their way through dungeons.

I would assume someone hardcore enough of a Roleplayer to have that much of an issue with this would FC run dungeons.

[Oaken]

What happens when those RPers expect the rules of an RP server, and then enter DF, where these rules do not apply? I sure hope they don't expect to RP their way through dungeons.

As someone who has RPed in FFXIV for over a year, this is not a real possibility. Roleplayers do not RP their way through dungeons unless it is with other consenting roleplayers (and such things are usually planned well in advance). Also, roleplayers are not usually in character, especially while engaging in PVE content.

[CyrilLucifer]

As someone who has RPed in FFXIV for over a year, this is not a real possibility. Roleplayers do not RP their way through dungeons unless it is with other consenting roleplayers (and such things are usually planned well in advance). Also, roleplayers are not usually in character, especially while engaging in PVE content.

I call BS right now.
I've had RPers in DF refuse to use certain abilities because they're RPing. I absolutely understand this isn't everyone, but this does happen, don't kid yourself. You're not some unified group; you certainly can't speak for everyone.

Also, I disagree with this proposal. Japan does not RP frequently if at all, the concept is foreign to them. The cost of maintaining three or more additional servers is best used on the game as a whole not just a subset of the population and, as we see with how long it took to implement a single new EU server - that is, after every server on the data center had more than 7000 active players, and more than 4 with 10000, it was desperately needed - it also shows that SE is extremely unwilling to bear these new server costs.

Do you think there are 5k+ active individual RPers per region willing to play their mains on these new servers? I think you'd struggle to fill one. Ask for one instead of three and you might have a more reasonable discussion.

[DamianFatale]

Also, I disagree with this proposal. Japan does not RP frequently if at all, the concept is foreign to them. The cost of maintaining three additional servers is best used on the game as a whole and, as we see with how long it took to implement a single new EU server - that is, after every server on the data center had more than 7000 active players, and more than 4 with 10000 - it also shows that SE is extremely unwilling to bear these new server costs.

Do you think there are 5k+ active individual RPers per data center willing to play their mains on these new servers? I think you'd struggle to fill one.

If it's so infrequent, then why did Yoshi P acknowledge a community of Japanese dungeon roleplayers. Something has to be pretty notable for the devs to notice most of the time.

[Oaken]

I call BS right now.
I've had RPers in DF refuse to use certain abilities because they're RPing. I absolutely understand this isn't everyone, but this does happen, don't kid yourself. You're not some unified group; you certainly can't speak for everyone.

I question the veracity of your claim. It is inconsistent with how roleplayers engage in roleplay, and unless you produce a log demonstrating your allegations - I seriously doubt they ever ever occurred. Roleplayers do not "refuse to use certain abilities" in public PVE dungeon finder settings; we know how to distinguish between OOC and IC. I'm a roleplayer. I know /hundreds/ of fellow roleplayers. And the type of conduct you describe is simply non-existent.

The post above speaks volumes to why roleplayers /need/ a centralized, official roleplay hub, and why other developers grant RPers their own servers to great success. We're a distinct community that can no longer grow because our unofficial server is locked for transfers.

One official RP server would be perfectly sufficient, but one per data center would help ensure that people had better ping options.

[MistakeNot]

I question the veracity of your claim. It is inconsistent with how roleplayers engage in roleplay, and unless you produce a log demonstrating your allegations - I seriously doubt they ever ever occurred. Roleplayers do not "refuse to use certain abilities" in public PVE dungeon finder settings; we know how to distinguish between OOC and IC.

Unusual as it may be, it probably has happened at some point. Of course there are also exist many more cases of non-RPers who refuse to use certain abilities because of stupid reasons. It certainly does not mean RPers are more likely to do that than non-RPers.

[Chronons]

I question the veracity of your claim. It is inconsistent with how roleplayers engage in roleplay, and unless you produce a log demonstrating your allegations - I seriously doubt they ever ever occurred.

I've had RPers not use skills in the DF before, as well as classes instead of jobs, RP dungeon walkers, RP chat spam. Gonna call me a liar too?

My FC is right next door to one of the biggest RP FCs on Jenova and I would be sad to see them go. Some of the friendliest people on the server. They have invited us to many of their events and it is a joy to see them doing their thing all around lavender beds. That being said I dont really see the difference in having an official and an unofficial server for RPers. If there is such a great desire for this within the community, why not organize and move to one of the smallest servers yourself? It serves the same function. Just requires work and motivation on the players end as opposed to the developers.