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  1. #11
    Player
    Hierro's Avatar
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    Ziero Rehw-bidit
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvina View Post
    6 fell cleaves in a row. Who cares if bloodbath is going away, gonna have rampart. I'm gonna enjoy WAR just as much in SB as I do now, at the very very least. Will continue to main PLD for now since it's my first 60 class and WAR is only 53 atm though.
    You don't understand. However, it's not surprising since you haven't even unlocked fell cleave yet, let alone reached 60 to know the nuances of WAR. The whole point of fell cleave is that when we pop that berserk and land those two or three fell cleaves, we get immense satisfaction because they're relatively huge numbers. The fact berserk is now a 30% buff as opposed to 50% means that satisfaction is much lessened, even if math shows your dps potential stays the same. Also, you have to take into account we got a cheap version of Fight or Flight at that point, so why be happy?

    WAR's ease of playing and hallmark of great design is the fluidity of stance dancing. Doing an opener in defiance and switching when you reached 5 stacks to deliverance meant a super streamlined change from tank to dps stance. If for whatever reason you needed inner beast, you had the option to build stacks in deliverance and switch only when you had to. Dungeons were doable thanks to this, but now that flash and stance dancing will be gone, it's going to be very awkward.

    This isn't even mentioning the loss of bloodbath, a useless gap closer, and a spirits within knockoff that's supposed to replace fracture.
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  2. #12
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    Cacho'rro Dos'ventos
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    I loved the stance dance nerf. t was ridiculous how Warriors can freely change stance with no punishmente at all. Don't talk about losing HP because that really doesn't matter if you know the fight.
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  3. #13
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    Nic Pay
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Inuk9 View Post
    I loved the stance dance nerf. t was ridiculous how Warriors can freely change stance with no punishmente at all. Don't talk about losing HP because that really doesn't matter if you know the fight.
    it was the samething on other tanks so what is it that your saying, this wasnt a good change at all
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  4. #14
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    Baci's Avatar
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    Baci Asciar
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Inuk9 View Post
    I loved the stance dance nerf. t was ridiculous how Warriors can freely change stance with no punishmente at all. Don't talk about losing HP because that really doesn't matter if you know the fight.
    If HP doesnt matter, then losing 1 GCD also doesnt matter if you know the fight
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  5. #15
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    Lyrre Myste
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvina View Post
    6 fell cleaves in a row. Who cares if bloodbath is going away, gonna have rampart. I'm gonna enjoy WAR just as much in SB as I do now, at the very very least. Will continue to main PLD for now since it's my first 60 class and WAR is only 53 atm though.
    there are fight that have gone down to the wire i would not have been able to win without bloodbath. It is a great cd that i'm going to miss.


    regardless, i'll probably get all 3 tanks to 70.
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  6. #16
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    Inuk9's Avatar
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    Cacho'rro Dos'ventos
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    Behemoth
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    it was the samething on other tanks so what is it that your saying, this wasnt a good change at all
    It was. Warriors since 3.0 are in a godlike status. They can tank with no problems all content and still are the best off tank in the game. I really would like to see PLD/DRK comps but nope, because warriors.

    Have fun losing half of your bar while stance dancing.

    The funny thing is...It's highly probable that WAR still will be the best job in the game, so don't worry.
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  7. #17
    Player LeeraSorlan's Avatar
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    Leera Katz
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    A berserked warrior in deliverance using dual decimate with veng and bloodbath up, plus overpower spam was a trash pull god.

    Now, since our self heals are now tied to being in defiance, that wont be possible.


    At least not as smoothly.


    Idc about potency reduction as much.


    But the seamless tank stance swap was why i found war to be so fun. Now its penalized just like the other tanks.


    Will reserve judment till i get it 70, but from an outside view this is kinda sad.
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  8. #18
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    Grandfall Fraxinus
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Inuk9 View Post
    It was. Warriors since 3.0 are in a godlike status. They can tank with no problems all content and still are the best off tank in the game. I really would like to see PLD/DRK comps but nope, because warriors.

    Have fun losing half of your bar while stance dancing.

    The funny thing is...It's highly probable that WAR still will be the best job in the game, so don't worry.
    warrior was good in 3.x but not OP, if they were then the tank meta will be WAR/WAR duo, but no the other tank still get the chance to shine(albeit not as offtank) and the thing is considering PLD got all the good stuff while the other 2 tanks got shit on for 4.0 i'm not even surprised if we're gonna be back like that early 2.0 era where PLD/PLD duo will be a thing again
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    Last edited by konpachizaraki; 06-16-2017 at 12:05 AM.

  9. #19
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    Chillor Killor
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth View Post
    Because not only can Warriors tank well, but they're also taking home NBA championships. Way too OP if you ask me.
    I think the joke about Golden State Warriors winning the NBA championship went over way to many heads. You people really need to broaden your horizons and get out more!
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