I'm a bit torn on this to be honest - yes, we need better reasons to re-run olf dungeons than the relic, but at the same time I kinda want to be done with them by now aswell. I dont want to go back to Sastasha NM again and again - yes, I know, we have to, new players and all that. But whatever reason they give us, I feel it has to be something less "grindy" in a sense (if you understand what I mean).

Also: minimum ilvl runs cant do that - if I'm not terribly mistaken you can only queue for minimum ilvl as full group and unless you just want reasons to re-run those dungeons with your friends and not queue in with DF-pugs, it wont help (I'm also not sure if minimum ilvl increases the droprates for minions - somehow I thought it only increased it for songs and special primal-drops?).

My point basically is: Even if I understand that we'll have to re-run those dungeons for the sake of new people again, I can barely stand the thought right now (got a couple copperbells for mentor-roulette recently, I was soooo happy /sarcasm off) so I agree - they need 1) better rewards and 2) rewards that are grindy without feeling grindy - which sounds like a tough task and its excatly that, but just putting us through the old dungeons for our relic again and again cant be the solution...