logical approach to DPS meter ingame

[Tracewood]

People who keep suggesting a DPS meter really underestimate how many people will abuse it. Heck, check PF on the Raids and EX comments just to get an idea the kind of people that will use it to "justify" kicking someone or talking down to them.

Remember "Skip Soar" ? Do you really want to give these people a tool that's ripe for abuse? How about the current meta for endgame, there are people excluding jobs. I get the good intention, but nothing good is going to come of it when given to people who want to abuse it.

[HoodRat]

People who keep suggesting a DPS meter really underestimate how many people will abuse it. Heck, check PF on the Raids and EX comments just to get an idea the kind of people that will use it to "justify" kicking someone or talking down to them.

Parsers have been in the game a long time, and most of the "abuse" isn't even from people using them.

Remember "Skip Soar" ? Do you really want to give these people a tool that's ripe for abuse? How about the current meta for endgame, there are people excluding jobs. I get the good intention, but nothing good is going to come of it when given to people who want to abuse it.

The amount of dps required to skip that first soar was doable at ilvl 230. The min ilvl for the instance is 250, yet many groups with 6 dps still couldn't skip. There was even a reddit page devoted to helping people skip soar. It had openers specifically designed to maximize dps on Zurvan for every class, but half the comments there were along the lines of, "stop crying and just learn how to do soar." The irony, of course, being that the people most likely to fail soar were the ones who couldn't do enough dps to skip it.

[Akor]

People who keep suggesting a DPS meter really underestimate how many people will abuse it. Heck, check PF on the Raids and EX comments just to get an idea the kind of people that will use it to "justify" kicking someone or talking down to them.

Remember "Skip Soar" ? Do you really want to give these people a tool that's ripe for abuse? How about the current meta for endgame, there are people excluding jobs. I get the good intention, but nothing good is going to come of it when given to people who want to abuse it.

If ppl getting abused for doing bad dps it should be problem for banning them for WEEKS if its ingame dps meter or 3rd party. Its just that SE is to fucking lazy to thinking or change EULA. So yea it should make any difference if its in-build or not, abuse is abuse.

[Mavrias]

People who keep suggesting a DPS meter really underestimate how many people will abuse it. Heck, check PF on the Raids and EX comments just to get an idea the kind of people that will use it to "justify" kicking someone or talking down to them.

Remember "Skip Soar" ? Do you really want to give these people a tool that's ripe for abuse? How about the current meta for endgame, there are people excluding jobs. I get the good intention, but nothing good is going to come of it when given to people who want to abuse it.

Requesting that your party has enough dps to skip soar isnt abuse. Especially when all that implies is "know your class well enough to execute a basic opener."