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    Player
    TrowGundam's Avatar
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    Senah Akagi
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    I'd say a nice compromise would be give us a DPS meter, but it only works on the Striking Dummies. Those are in the game to be used for getting used to rotations and trying out different combos. Giving us a DPS gauge on them would help further this cause and prevent most of the social issue that they may bring to the game. Which is ultimately what I think Square-Enix is trying to prevent. Plus, the elitist jerks who want to flaunt their numbers in other's faces will just use an external tool to do so anyways.
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    Erys's Avatar
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    Erys Shir'en
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrowGundam View Post
    I'd say a nice compromise would be give us a DPS meter, but it only works on the Striking Dummies.
    Bad idea, Striking Dummies don't have mechanics, downtime or party compositions. It's a bad testing ground. Sure it tells you your 100% uptime dps rotation. But you are not going to have 100% uptime always and will need to see numbers on the fly and after the fact to see how to minimize the impact said downtimes have on your dps.
    Also cd usage, when to save or when to use for max damage during acertain fight. Unless they add mechanics to dummies, which won't happen, this is a useless idea. But I appreciate your effort to make a compromise.
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    Player Aquaslash's Avatar
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    Zinnia Higana
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    Honestly? Give up. I know it hurts like hell. As a PS4 player, I want a personal meter REALLY bad. However, Yoshi-P has REPEATEDLY said his piece on it, and even feigns running away from the floor when asked about it.

    Just look at the feast, and how Quick Chat is UNANIMOUSLY hated but they keep adding to it. If they're doing that to something like chat, there's no way in hell they're gonna add something that they feel will increase player harassment.

    There's also that idol incident in Japan. Yoshi-P was probably really embarrassed about that, and it probably put the nail in the coffin more than anything.

    It sucks ass but it is what it is
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    Riyshn'a Nhise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaslash View Post
    There's also that idol incident in Japan. Yoshi-P was probably really embarrassed about that, and it probably put the nail in the coffin more than anything.
    What was this?
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    Gravton Pentest
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    Elites are still going to flame so we should just allow it anyway? Well, if they are harassing you that is a violation of ToS. If the are using a third pt program, that is a violation of ToS. Yoshi said they would turn a blind eye so long as you don't talk about it. So if they are violating it then report it. As far as a "great community" this is the only game I know of that won't let you talk to your team because of all the abuse they saw. I am against dps meters.
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    Maybe if it was only usable in full premades, and not general PF but PW locked PF for cross world groups, then of course an option for full party made in the regular server world. Then at least its not spread to the general public.
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    Hypnotic Noodle
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    Coeurl
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    I am all for dps/healing/mitigation meters being put into the game, but only if they put all three in. If dps jobs get to see how well they are doing, why shouldn't tanks and healer's be able to see their numbers as well? WoW did this with add on's so it is possible. This biggest hurdle would be incorporating it for ps4 users. If everyone saying DPS meters mean to include the above, then my post is a mute point.
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    "If you walk through life thinking you are not needed, remember that there is always someone that is counting on you." -CP

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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyxn607 View Post
    I am all for dps/healing/mitigation meters being put into the game, but only if they put all three in. If dps jobs get to see how well they are doing, why shouldn't tanks and healer's be able to see their numbers as well? WoW did this with add on's so it is possible. This biggest hurdle would be incorporating it for ps4 users. If everyone saying DPS meters mean to include the above, then my post is a mute point.
    Overhealing percentiles and active rates would be nice too, and the ability to toggle between actual damage and relative potency...

    Too much?
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    Probably not a good idea to even post something like this about parsing. A thread was made a week ago and it didn't end well.

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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Jerk will always be Jerk
    giving a burglar a knife, he will rob a store, but if u give him a gun, he will rob a bank
    the tools are there, the only safe guard we have are SE, and this cant be lift
    I came from other MMO with DPS meter, and most of them turn in to a norm, the higher number the more convincing common will be, and I do not want FFXIV turn into such toxicate MMO
    I am on the same stance as SE on this topic, we see the harm it will done vastly out weight the good it bring
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