Raids and dungeons still relevant after expansion?

[bswpayton]

As far as ex primals go for hw i dobut they will be easy mode the fights are designed better than arr's ones you still have to do the mechanics as most of them are instant kill and you can't really skip a bunch of stuff in them outside of ravana and bismarck

with a level 70 character in high level gear you will skip tones of phases in those fights , just like groups can skip them now with high dps , its gona be easy mood if its unsync. The only things youd have to cocern yourself with are like the puddles in sep which Im sure you prob could skip with high dps, the tilts in sophia I will say this will prob be the biggest problem out of all the hw primals. With broken seal on zurvan being an issue but Im sure that can be skipped to so I dont see how these wouldnt be anymore faceroll than the current arr primals unsync

[Ogulbuk]

with a level 70 character in high level gear you will skip tones of phases in those fights , just like groups can skip them now with high dps , its gona be easy mood if its unsync. The only things youd have to cocern yourself with are like the puddles in sep which Im sure you prob could skip with high dps, the tilts in sophia I will say this will prob be the biggest problem out of all the hw primals. With broken seal on zurvan being an issue but Im sure that can be skipped to so I dont see how these wouldnt be anymore faceroll than the current arr primals unsync

Fun story: my old FC thought it would be easy to just unsync The Bowl of Embers (Extreme.) Anyone that done it will get the punch line.

[Arutan]

It will be hard for SE to drag us back to 3.0 content. Bird already have a higher % and buyables, gear won't be relevant and still no glamour log, and if we can really still trust them we shouldn't have any relic grind outside Eureka.
Only people going back to 3.0 content are those who waited for unsynced for mount, minion and cards.

[Inuk9]

You can expect a lot of movement in the 50~60 dungeons due to the new jobs. But DPS queues will be duplicated at minimum, lul.

[bounddreamer]

A lot of people are going to be leveling and doing their roulettes, all available roulettes. This includes running older content. Unsynced duties don't give experience. Everyone wants experience again starting with Stormblood, so you'll be fine. I was actually helping someone clear some older level 60 dungeons yesterday and the queue popped crazy fast.

[Ogulbuk]

The Crystal Tower is still ran regularly. It can take a while, but Wondrous Tales alone, plus ingredients for Anima Steps seem to encourage people to queue up. I expect the same to be true for the Sky Pirate raids, and who knows, maybe at some point we get a Alliance Raid Roulette.

Alexander may be harder, but I still see people running Bahamut once in a while, so I bet that may also still be a thing. EX runs may be slow queues in duty finder, you will be the bane of mentors, but those are best done with a party finder anyways. I hope they never give strong incentives to do EX trials, though. I don't have any fun doing those.

[Silverquick]

Alexander may be harder, but I still see people running Bahamut once in a while, so I bet that may also still be a thing. EX runs may be slow queues in duty finder, you will be the bane of mentors, but those are best done with a party finder anyways. I hope they never give strong incentives to do EX trials, though. I don't have any fun doing those.

It will depend really, unsynced can break Coils in places.

In Coils, there are portions where the insta-kill mechanics can't kill you at level 60th... so instead it breaks the whole thing and locks you in the instance. It wasn't designed with level 60 play in mind... it did that to me when I went through it unsynced. Its why I stopped. No one queues for it, and running it unsynced can break it.

This could also turn out to be the case in Alex too, but we'd have to see.

[Ibi]

Here's how it's likely to work out:

• Level 51-59 Dungeons: These will continue to be included in the Leveling Roulette, so there should be very little change here.
• Level 60 Dungeons: These should all be part of the Level 60 Roulette. It's likely these will be less populated once Stormblood goes live. Like the current Level 50 Roulette, they'll probably see some action once people are max level and working on tomestones again, since the roulette bonuses are usually good sources of tomestones.
• Normal Mode Primals: These are already generally only run once either as part of the MSQ or the Warring Triad sidequests. The major difference in Stormblood will be the option to run these unsynced.
• Extreme Mode Primals: Bismark and Ravana are already part of the Wondrous Tails rotation, and it's likely that the others will get added to that rotation at some point. It will be possible to run these unsynced, and it's likely that's how most people will run them, in order to farm birds and/or glamour items.
• Normal Mode Raids: The unsynced option will likely be added here, but these will probably become like Normal Mode Primals, with people primarily running them to complete the story and unlock Savage mode.
• Savage Mode Raids: These should end up being like Coil has been in Heavensward, with the option to run them unsynced. This will trivialize some floors, but others (especially those with instant-kill/instant-wipe mechanics) will still require some of the mechanics to be completed correctly, although DPS and healing requirements will still be trivialized.

[Core1019]

The Crystal Tower is still ran regularly. It can take a while, but Wondrous Tales alone, plus ingredients for Anima Steps seem to encourage people to queue up. I expect the same to be true for the Sky Pirate raids, and who knows, maybe at some point we get a Alliance Raid Roulette.

Alexander may be harder, but I still see people running Bahamut once in a while, so I bet that may also still be a thing. EX runs may be slow queues in duty finder, you will be the bane of mentors, but those are best done with a party finder anyways. I hope they never give strong incentives to do EX trials, though. I don't have any fun doing those.

I really hope they do give incentives to do ex primals/savage raids, those are the only decent part of the game.

[savageink]

I would like to see a raid roulette with whatever the current tomestones will be at the least. Maybe not for Savage modes, but at least incentivize the normal ones so people will run them.