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    Giving Scholar a Chance in Stormblood

    A few changes that would make SCH go from a downgrade to an upgrade, while still losing many of the skills cut in stormblood.

    Remove Ruin mastery that turns ruin into Broil. Instead:

    Disastrous Ruin- Ruin's mp cost raises to 1.33 times that of Broil II. 80 Potency AOE within 8 yalms of the target. 20% chance your next ruin will be instant cast.

    Shadowflare- Places an Aoe at a given area dealing 25 potency a second over 30 seconds. There is a 15% chance that each bio/bio ii or miasma ii tick will reset the timer. Can only be reset once every 15 seconds. While already active Shadowflare becomes a 250 potency aoe around the target, instead of a placeable field. Bane will 100% reset the cd. CD of 60 seconds.

    Dissipation- Healing spells increased by 20%. Lustrate, Indomitability, Sacred Soil, Excogitation, Bane and Energy Drain have their potency increased by 20%. You gain III aetherflow stacks. If used while Fey union is tethered to a target, the target has 20% of their mp,TP and hp restored, a barrier of 20% of their is added to the target. Will overide any Galvanize or Nocturnal Benefic/Helios. Cannot be overidden, except by Galvanize or Nocturnal Aspected Benefic/Helios of a higher potency. Successfully using Summon or Summon II removes the effect of Dissipation. Duration 30 seconds. Recast time of 180 seconds.

    Virus- Removes the effect of Addle. Target has 15% reduced attributes for 10 seconds.

    TRAIT-Brilliant Broil II (instead of just broil to broil ii upgrade)- Embrace has a 20% chance of causing your next broil II to be instant cast. Upgrades Broil to Broil II. (Opening more opportunity to weave.) Duration: 20 seconds.

    Deployment tactics. spreads galvanize onto nearby party members and resets its duration. If used on an enemy, spreads Virus to surrounding enemies and resets its duration. Eye for an Eye spreading has been removed since it is a role skill.


    Fey union- When used with eos, damage taken is reduced by 10% on top of a ~350 potency, realword healer potency every 3 seconds. IF selene is attached, damage done is increased by 5%, spell based healing received is increased by 50% (Selene will not heal the target.)


    If you feel this is overpowered, take a good long look at AST.
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    Current Changes to SCH:

    Bio removed.
    Aero removed.
    Bane nerfed from the removal of Bio and diminishing returns.
    Blizzard II removed.
    Miasma II removed.
    Shadowflare removed from the GCD on a 60 second cd.
    Spell speed pet action proc removed.
    Virus removed.
    Eye for an Eye placed as a role skill.
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 06-03-2017 at 04:56 PM.

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    Tanya Fierlaine
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    Just to add a few things to current changes:
    Shadowflare is 15s uptime not 30s as previously thought. Tooltips are wrong you can see it in the ingame footage as a 15s buff, specifically the mister happy one.
    Aether cut in half to 10%, probably forcing us to take lucid.
    Embrace 50 points less potent.
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    Shadow flare only half the update? Seriously, this is getting disgusting. The nerfs are way too much.
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    I don't really agree with the nerfs not being needed, though. Wait to see how it plays first.
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    The shadowflare idea is pretty interesting although I'm not sure bane auto resetting it would be the best idea as it's going to put it straight back into a fixed rotation for aoeing again.

    2 dots, Shadowflare, bane, shadowflare, nuke for 15 seconds. Even with 2 targets it's going to proc quickly without the need for the auto proc on bane imo.

    Good stuff tho, I like it <3
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    I'd say the devs are intent on making us rely on the fairy to supplement/complement what healing output scholars have been doing. That remains unchanged.

    I think the other main thing with the aoes nerfs across the role board is slowing down speed runs in dungeons to make them more "challenging". (Sees how potent aoes melt the living hell out of trash mobs in pretty much any dungeon.)


    That being said, great ideas you got there Rawrz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RokkuEkkusu View Post
    I'd say the devs are intent on making us rely on the fairy to supplement/complement what healing output scholars have been doing. That remains unchanged.

    I think the other main thing with the aoes nerfs across the role board is slowing down speed runs in dungeons to make them more "challenging". (Sees how potent aoes melt the living hell out of trash mobs in pretty much any dungeon.)


    That being said, great ideas you got there Rawrz.
    If there were nerfs to the other healers aoe I would agree with you. Both others got buffs. Assize got 30s off of its cd astro got its own version of assize, both unaffected by number of mobs. Aero 3 unaffected by number of mobs. Holy and gravity retain the 10% reduction per mob that they currently have so they're essentially untouched and just as powerful as now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsTanya View Post
    If there were nerfs to the other healers aoe I would agree with you. Both others got buffs. Assize got 30s off of its cd astro got its own version of assize, both unaffected by number of mobs. Aero 3 unaffected by number of mobs. Holy and gravity retain the 10% reduction per mob that they currently have so they're essentially untouched and just as powerful as now.
    And WHM got thin air, which basically means free holy spam.
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    I don't like RNG proc mechanics even in the best of times, so I'd rather just have shadowflare off a 60 cooldown. Additionally it can't renew itself if the tank moves things off it or if it's placed badly. Also I don't like the idea of changing it to targetting an enemy. While it's instant now making this much less of an issue, one of the best things about Shadowflare is being able to place it in an area in anticipation of where enemies will be. More than utility, dropping it where the boss will be pulled before the charge-in is just simple fun, and I'd hate to lose even the small bit of that.

    Fairies in general still need attention but they don't get it since they're not a priority; still it's sad that this is the 2nd expansion without either fairy learning a 5th move, cementing their role as Pokemon forever. Spreading Virus is a no, that just turns deployment into Bane for a debuff, and we don't even have that anymore because it's a design decision to remove all enemy debuffs from healers across the board (they're solely in the camp of DPS now, which is just the weirdest design decision ever and the less I say about it the cleaner my dialog).

    I am still in favor of something like Exterminate, a move that was iconic to Bravely Default's Arcanist class, that deals spike damage to poisoned targets. We already see the mechanic in Fester, but as the adage goes the "one who is most aware of the many ways to destroy your body is your doctor", so an AoE fester on a similar cooldown to indomitability would be both kind of fun and fit class design standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegoTechnic View Post
    Spreading Virus is a no, that just turns deployment into Bane for a debuff, and we don't even have that anymore because it's a design decision to remove all enemy debuffs from healers across the board (they're solely in the camp of DPS now, which is just the weirdest design decision ever and the less I say about it the cleaner my dialog).
    It would also reset the duration of Virus. It would be one of those skills that offers a choice. In my opinion those are the best kind.

    A fester painflare would be amazing, if they weren't already just deleting skills on a rampage.

    What I've always wanted to see is Selene getting a magic vuln up on a single target for 8 seconds every 90, call it fey charm and Eos getting a buff that she would place on a single target that would place a shield for 50% of the next spell based healing received. Call it Fey Memento.
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