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    Paying for levels?

    (I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this.)

    I've been hearing some rumors that SE is going to start allowing people to buy their way to the top..?

    Really? I'm sorry but this is going down the path of WoW and Rift... which are both dead or pay to win. When these kinds of things started in those games the games died or instantly became toxic (or more toxic than they already were).

    You see, since there are HUNDREDS of unnecessary milk run quests (or 100 with up to 10 steps) I can see why people would want to skip this if they want to re-roll on another server or just make another character since there are so many cool races and stuff.. but why would you charge for that? From what I've seen, having that absurd amount of "content" is a result of people burning through content as fast as they can and then being bored.

    Continued.. -_-
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    ..continued -_-

    So by all means, give us an out, but it just seems like yet more money grubbing. If you want to help then let any account who has been through the content once opt out of doing it again and again, but don't make them pay. Not just bc it's shameless money-grubbing, but bc the community doesn't want to be stuck with people who don't know how to play AT ALL ending up in ques unable to play their class and annoying other players. The people paying to level will get bored and quit anyway and a lot of good, non-cheating players may feel like the challenge is gone if you can just buy levels and may quit too.. which means you'd lose a lot of subs.

    tl;dr- This is a HORRIBLE idea and most of us hate it and it will probably lose you lots of subs vs losing people who wanted an easy ride and have a short attention span to begin with, who will probably quit in a month or three anyway bc it's too hard. Don't do it.
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    Please don't speak for everyone... if not everyone agrees.

    From what I understand you can level up one class to 60 per account. Who cares? Even if it was to 70 for every class... big whoop.

    Everyone knows the real leveling is gear anyway lol
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    "most of us"

    And I guess it's not so bad if it's ONE per account but it's still going down the WoW path imo. Which is why I, and many others, care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by l1ghtchas3r View Post
    I've been hearing some rumors that SE is going to start allowing people to buy their way to the top..?
    Not really a rumour, since it's already been announced. Nor does it boost someone all the way to the top, as it's limited to lvl 60 (Which, at the point of the sales starting, will no longer be the max level).

    Quote Originally Posted by l1ghtchas3r
    Really? I'm sorry but this is going down the path of WoW and Rift... which are both dead or pay to win.
    Since WoW is neither dead nor pay to win, I'm not sure what you're getting at.

    Quote Originally Posted by l1ghtchas3r
    You see, since there are HUNDREDS of unnecessary milk run quests (or 100 with up to 10 steps)
    While ARR had a lot of filler quests, this isn't really the case for HW.

    Also, you can edit your post to get past the 1000 character limit.
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    I am confused how it will work exactly. The potions jump you past the story...alright I get that one. -- The job potion confuses me. How will HW jobs work. They require you be thirty but do not require a base class. Will it raise whatever class you begin your character as? So an arcanist could use an Astrologian boost and then be able to immediately branch out to two other jobs if they get the right gear? Seems like there are some issues with the planning...or we just don't know how it will work yet.

    I have no issue with the idea of them...just their application.
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    It's not that big a deal. You can only buy 1 job potion per account, which levels the job to 60. A separate potion is needed to advance the storyline.

    Also, there have already been countless threads on this going back and forth on the pros and cons. At this point, it's already set in stone and it's not going to change. You can review the Live Letters if you want more details .
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    While that is correct that you can only buy 1 potion per account, excluding RDM and SAM, this is just for the EA/Launch of SB since it will be available June 16th. I am sure that way later down the road, these become unlimited, and will then also include the new jobs. I still don't mind it, it's great for skipping MSQ or leveling even more alts, after you've gotten tired of running ARR & HW on multiple characters the last 3+ years.
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    What is being sold is a way to bypass previous expansions content. You know... The content that most active players have already finished. Can't exactly win at something that just about everyone has already beaten you to. It is simply an option for people to spend a bit of money to get on near-equal footing with veterans for the start of the expansion.
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    On top of everything else already mentioned, SE's probably already missing out on subs when players realize how late-game content is gated behind story. Not everyone wants to slog through 2.0 when they hear all the news about the new areas and stories being added. Anyone barely paying attention should know many player's sentiments on joining and wanting to actually play the stuff everyone else is doing.
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