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  1. #51
    Player
    Moonlite's Avatar
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    Midnight Falcon
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    I am seriously confused by the people who think this would help their runs. A min gear score ok. But we all know any trial will have a youtube video of the basic steps people will complete it and go back to playing the way they were before. If I was lazy and only wanted to press 2 buttons what makes you think I couldn't pass some sort of test that is suppose to be a basic proving ground. Maybe I am wrong, but the players that I see that might be considered sub par aren't bad. They just don't care netflix,homework,eating, or enjoying a moment of self gratification.

    The only solution is community policing and that only works if you remove the automated grouping system. I don't think you can convince enough players to convince SE.
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  2. #52
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    Abriael's Avatar
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    Abriael Rosen
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    Goblin
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    No. We can't.

    Amazed that, with the stance Square Enix had for a while, elitists still think this game is made to cater to them,
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  3. #53
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    Ayer Austen
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Core1019 View Post
    Even if it's something like a mandatory SSS dummy before the final boss trial, ilvl synced per class. Just something to prevent things like 'ice mages' slowing down roulettes or getting into ex primals?
    Given their primary development focus is accessibility I highly doubt something like this will ever happen.
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  4. #54
    Player ErikMynhier's Avatar
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    Erik Mynhier
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Look, if you don't like how players play, don't advocate for nonsense draconian rules that hamstring all of us.

    I don't get where this need to control all other player's experience comes from, but instead of this dictator nonsense just.....

    MAKE A STATIC!!!!
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  5. #55
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmacus View Post
    The steps of faith in 2.5 was exact this. People complained too hard and it was nerf to the version we have now.
    No. It is a group trial, not a solo trial where only your own skill get tested.
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    Last edited by Felis; 06-12-2017 at 03:03 AM.

  6. #56
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    Gabrielleblanc's Avatar
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    Leonard Lecorre
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Blizzard tried this, it plus story failings lead to the biggest content drought expansion due to lack of players. Pass.
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  7. #57
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    The only content gating I want to see--at least one that is realistically possible--is an ilvl check for all pieces of gear AND a check for the appropriate stat corresponding to the class.
    Found the Rift player!

    Seriously though, they simply need to put class restrictions on accessories so people can't cheese the ilvl.
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  8. #58
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    Balipu's Avatar
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    Tea Mysidia
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    Phoenix
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    Rogue Lv 90
    You are already scared, huh? Well news flash. When early access begins, nobody will know the tactics and everyone will be in subpar gear. If you don't want to struggle together, experiment, and have moments like when the tank DC's mid pull, wait a few days before starting the main scenario and form statics via Party finder. Leave content gates in wow where they belong.
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  9. #59
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    Oraina Fhey
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    Coeurl
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabrielleblanc View Post
    Blizzard tried this, it plus story failings lead to the biggest content drought expansion due to lack of players. Pass.
    Which drought are we talking about here MoP, WoD or Legion? Either way this game has a small community as it is; content gating would only make it smaller.
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  10. #60
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmacus View Post
    The steps of faith in 2.5 was exact this. People complained too hard and it was nerf to the version we have now.
    Actually. The issue was since veteran players had no motivation to do Steps of Faith more than once, many up and left as requeuing usually meant a faster run, especially as only one person gets the 30 penalty. This made getting access to Heavensward needlessly frustrating. The mistake wasn't difficulty, but not incentivizing it. The devs stuffed a sudden difficulty spike when alternatives were easier. So everyone did the latter. They need to commit from the beginning. Say Stormblood opens with dungeons on par with The Aery and Vault. Don't make any easier. That's your baseline.
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