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    dragonseth07's Avatar
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    Ratithgar Jovasch
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    It was great, the people who were incapable of completing them whined on the forums, but the quality of players you'd run into in random heroic dungeons was greatly increased (the average level of self awareness increased from dead tuna to sentient nihilistic pumpkin), and queues didn't take much of a hit. People who were bad were forced to learn and improve their gameplay to meet the most basic standards, or they were forced to sulk in their shame.
    And then the whiners on the forums won and it was removed, and player quality tanked again.
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    Player ErikMynhier's Avatar
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    Erik Mynhier
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Look, if you don't like how players play, don't advocate for nonsense draconian rules that hamstring all of us.

    I don't get where this need to control all other player's experience comes from, but instead of this dictator nonsense just.....

    MAKE A STATIC!!!!
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    Dirk Gently
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    Malboro
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
    Look, if you don't like how players play, don't advocate for nonsense draconian rules that hamstring all of us.

    I don't get where this need to control all other player's experience comes from, but instead of this dictator nonsense just.....

    MAKE A STATIC!!!!
    Thanks... saved me the trouble. The party finder is good for finding people who want their dungeons to run like well oiled machines to find others of like mind. The DF is for random chaos and wipes....but they pay you in tomes and stuff. If you can't stand healers who blow all their MP on AoEs or tanks who can't keep aggro, or DPS who forget not to stand in the fire, then don't roulette. Do you know how many loot coffers have been missed because some speed running tank just blew through the dungeon? Or how many speed running tanks have died because the rest of the PUG was looking for the loot while he was pulling the whole set of trash to the first boss? Actually, that one usually makes me laugh.
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    AmeliaVerves's Avatar
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    Amelia Wafflesmack
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by savageink View Post
    The party finder is good for finding people who want their dungeons to run like well oiled machines to find others of like mind.
    Sadly it is not. I tried to farm Nidhogg EX yesterday to get the bird, but people with bonus entered (we wrote 'no bonus please') and people who had no clue what they were doing there.
    Apart from the fact they didn't know the fight, they especially didn't know how to handle their job, which was quite annoying to find in a farm group.

    So, because I had a whole lot of those experiences I would apreciate some kind of gate for people who want to enter savage raids or ex primals. Story Content and general dungeons should be free for everyone, though!
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    I don't know, man.

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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AmeliaVerves View Post
    Sadly it is not. I tried to farm Nidhogg EX yesterday to get the bird, but people with bonus entered (we wrote 'no bonus please') and people who had no clue what they were doing there.
    Apart from the fact they didn't know the fight, they especially didn't know how to handle their job, which was quite annoying to find in a farm group.

    So, because I had a whole lot of those experiences I would apreciate some kind of gate for people who want to enter savage raids or ex primals. Story Content and general dungeons should be free for everyone, though!
    Easiest thing would just be to keep the EX unlocks sequential, like they were for Ifrit/Titan/Garuda and Bismark/Ravana.
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    Venjiwenji Lala
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    Famfrit
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Based on what actually happens when DF roulettes go bad, there's simply no way to gate it, and all content gates would accomplish is needlessly annoying people.

    Will a content gate stop the healer I had in Sohm Al who let me die three times because they were in FC chat and forgot to heal? They had the gear/quest checks done, and played like crap.

    Will a content gate make the family of one of my DPS in Baelsar's not bug her while she is doing a dungeon run? (We finished and she pulled through, but let's say we had a few rough patches)

    And this one is something I know well as a tank...will a content gate fix everyone needing at least one or two runs through a dungeon before becoming remotely proficient at it? Yeah, because my first time running Baelsar's I was perfect...NOT. On the final boss, my team could have reasonably wondered if I was trying to get hit with every single Sanguine Blade AE, as if there is an achievement for it. I think I ate like 5 in a row before I finally got the timing of his run to the side down. And I waited until I was iLvl 247 before I even queued for that place. No content gate fixes first time foulups and slop...believe me, I know.

    Etc etc. If your healer decides to watch Netflix, or your tank goes glamour and never heard of CDs, or your DPS are "roleplaying because hey, it's their sub, not yours!!", or it's just a few people's first freaking time through...then WTF is a content gate going to do to stop that? Nothing, that's what.

    Roulette = gambling = sometimes you win, most times you lose. The nonsense is baked right into the entire concept of random gambling on party members, which is why you get paid in gil, seals and tomestones.
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    Last edited by Venjenz; 06-13-2017 at 11:00 PM.

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    Yahallo's Avatar
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    Mana Kurogane
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Venjenz View Post
    Based on what actually happens when DF roulettes go bad, there's simply no way to gate it, and all content gates would accomplish is needlessly annoying people.
    I don't think people here are really asking for DF roulette gates, but gates on stuff like raids, EX trials, and the like, Mid to Hardcore content. At the very least, by requiring people to clear something like the Stone Sky Sea for a fight before they can join party finder groups for it would make it so that you would at least get someone who knows their job's basic rotation.
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