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    Player
    Hamada's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Aya Hamada
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    This sounds a lot like the "Hall of the Intermediate" some have been asking for, with "Hall of the Novice" seemingly being the "Bronze" level of it.
    Having a "Hall of the Intermediate" to pass in SB sounds good to me, general mass needs more motivation to care, not this "carry me plz"
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    The MSQ is the content gate for lv 70 content.
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    The MSQ is the content gate for lv 70 content.
    This. Job quests could be made mandatory too and I'd have no problem with that, because finishing job quests should be the standard anyway. WoW's silver Proving Grounds was about as hard as job quests and MSQ solo battles.
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    This. Job quests could be made mandatory too and I'd have no problem with that, because finishing job quests should be the standard anyway. WoW's silver Proving Grounds was about as hard as job quests and MSQ solo battles.
    This is a good point, and honestly goes along with what I was going to say.

    Gates like this don't help, as even if baddies struggle to get through it, they will get through it eventually, and then they'll just go back to not trying again.
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    The MSQ is the content gate for lv 70 content.
    And it's probably solely a test of patience because you'll need a lot of patience to endure the people in duty finder.
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 80
    To be fair, the game should not have to hold your hand and say "you need better gear for this instance you can now run that's 5-10 levels higher than what you currently have." I can't speak for others but on the way up, if it's better than what I have, it's getting equipped.

    The same goes for picking up new skills; why would you NOT want to get new skills? Why would you not want to have a more rounded out kit to play your job?

    People are asking for content gates, but that's hardly the issue. Player awareness and initiative is.
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    Alien_Gamer's Avatar
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    Cynehild Westknight
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 96
    Unfortunately, none of these skill checks will stop the problem because it won't stop someone from passing said check then spamming skill 1, only using ice spells, watching netflix, etc. You can't program your way out of bad player behavior. Can the skill checks be useful? for some yes, as a gate from deliberately bad playing? no. It could only stop those that are legitimately bad at the game and I don't think there are many of those to be honest.
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    Tee Hee
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    Cerberus
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer View Post
    as a gate from deliberately bad playing? no.
    Vote kick is still there, just for those guys.
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Hayward Timberwolf
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 70
    This thread deserves to be euthanized. I, for one, am tired of wannabe elitist snowflakes putting themselves over with silly threads calling for gating out "bad players" (i.e. players who either don't know or don't care about speedrunning, illegal parsing, or being the most "efficient" player on their server).
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    It's honestly kind of silly that there's no minimum ilevel requirement on all dungeons.

    I've run into multiple trolls/dumb players who try to tank/heal in glamour gear in the dungeon roulette, and that really shouldn't be happening.
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