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  1. #151
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    Waliel's Avatar
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    Waliel Hla
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Fun fact: both T3 and F4 have exactly the same PPS at 163,8 with base cast times.
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  2. #152
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    Underlord's Avatar
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    Underlord Djinn
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    Midgardsormr
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    When u do bliz4, u get those 3 stacks (arrows). Which decrease mp cost of f4 tremendously. So although not best way, I cast fire 3, then fire 4, 3 times then back to bliz3, 4...thunder, back to fire. I know I can get another fire 4,with fire 1 to add to Astral timer. But just easier and reliable not to, so I can keep Enoch going.. Once the lag goes away, I'll see about adding that extra fire. But at least the way I'm doing it, I can keep up Enoch forever... And at least if something bad was to happen during that, and lost Enoch, I still have a decent amount of mp left.
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  3. #153
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Umbral Heart lets you get off 5 F2 before Flare so that's cool I guess.
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  4. #154
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    Shiroe's Avatar
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    Ohlala Chica
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    Zodiark
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    1st you can not cast three Flares without convert or a portion, as soon as you flare you lose all the umbra the hearts

    2nd smn can double Akmorn

    smn and blm will over be very close (besides the pet does damage too), depending on the fight; either smn or blm can come out on top

    smn is far less broken than some are suggesting and blm got nerfed too
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  5. #155
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    Vallhallix's Avatar
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    Urdnot Rekt
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    I'm not entirely sure SMN and BLM will be neck and neck. I mean my SMN is just 64 now, but my RDM at 52 (with the same strength/weapon level) is incredibly burstier in potd. Having all RDMs or atleast 2 has made for the fastest potd runs and boss kills from 51-100. Knowing what it could be like at 60-70 I think there might be more competition between RDM and BLM than with SMN. I'm not 100% yet, but after seeing what RDM is capable of, SMN may need a buff. In potd you have to use tri-disaster all 3 stacks and deathflare to kill one enemy as fast as RDM.
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    Last edited by Vallhallix; 06-18-2017 at 05:54 AM.

  6. #156
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Character
    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    might be but never the less Bahamut (Shockwave & Ahk Morn) will add some serious dmg to your own skill dmg. I think most people underestimate Shockwave... f.e if you ll be able to throw in 10 skills in those 20 secs of adv. trance, Shockwave adds 1600 pot (10x160) + 1560 pot (2x Ahk Morn) on top of the burst skillpots themselves...+10% overall due to Rudas Con... might still not be enough to compete but well... we will see : /
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    Last edited by Neela; 06-18-2017 at 06:42 AM.

  7. #157
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    Silverquick Fox
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vallhallix View Post
    I'm not entirely sure SMN and BLM will be neck and neck. I mean my SMN is just 64 now, but my RDM at 52 (with the same strength/weapon level) is incredibly burstier in potd. Having all RDMs or atleast 2 has made for the fastest potdruns and boss kills from 51-100. Knowing what it could be like at 60-70 I think there might be more competition between RDM and BLM than with SMN. I'm not 100% yet, but after seeing what RDM is capable of, SMN may need a buff. In potd you have to use tri-disaster all 3 stacks and deathflare to kill one enemy as fast as RDM.
    Yeah SMN isn't really competitive anymore, but we all knew that from the Tooltips before launch. And playing the thing afterward... It was predictable.

    Red Mage shocked me... I did a dungeon run with it through Hullbreaker. I was thinking it was single target only type job too... but Scatter is dual casted its just powerful. At those levels I was burning through multiple mobs the same way I did as BLM with F2s and Flare. I didn't expect that.

    I still think BLM will come out on top in Single Target, but now that I've played it, but the fast speedy damage the Red Mage does may well approach it. I did some PoTD too, and my experience was the same as yours.

    While I don't have RDM to the same level as BLM and its not really geared at this point... these two are very competitive with each other.
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  8. #158
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    You again... *sigh*
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  9. #159
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    Silverquick Fox
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Oh get real... what fantasy world do you live in that makes you think I will ever leave or stop speaking just because YOU don't like it...

    Haven't you learned that by now?
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  10. #160
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    The one thing you still don't get is that everybody is expecting things you on the other hand think you know things for sure. Well never mind... your ignorance bores me to hell.
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    Last edited by Neela; 06-18-2017 at 07:03 AM.

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