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  1. #61
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Dancer Lv 90
    You disqualified yourself and aren't even aware oft it - it's over.
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  2. #62
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    You disqualified yourself and aren't even aware oft it - it's over.
    Oh that's why you had to go back and edit your posts long after saying you didn't "intentionally" want to start a fight again... a day later...
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunksFoy View Post
    Actually, Fire 2 is now 80*1.8-144 vs 100*1.8 =180. Add the 30 from thunder II and you're still at a 6 potency nerf. While Foul and Umbral Hearts will more than make up for that, you're assumption that it's 110 potency and therefore a buff is wrong, as you didn't factor the AF3 potency increase.
    You know... I'd actually be willing to give you that... but even with that...

    ...its a whopping 6 potency down... and a 30 potency AoE DoT that procs full damage total on top of the continuous ticks...

    So yeah its a serious buff...

    But.... even if we WERE talking about a 6 potency loss...

    That's almost a joke...

    When I look at what I lost on the SMN side of the ball... vs what I gained on the BLM side of the ball... yeah... no comparison.
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  4. #64
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    You guys know this is a blm thread right?
    All summoners everywhere in this thread, lol
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  5. #65
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    Len Orlan
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    You guys know this is a blm thread right?
    All summoners everywhere in this thread, lol
    That's because you're all content with the changes so there's nothing for you to discuss.
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  6. #66
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    You guys know this is a blm thread right?
    All summoners everywhere in this thread, lol
    Appearently you got one more - questionable if it's good for the Blm community though .__.
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  7. #67
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    Elatus Shadeflare
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    Hi, Black Mage/Summoner main. Black Mage was given plenty of love (juicier AoE game from quad flares, Thunder IV and Foul) and belly rubs (easier Enochian), while Summoner has kinda been shafted. So, there is a bit of salt to be had from those who played and love both classes... but see one being covered in succulent and rich chocolates/whatever your vice food is, and the other being covered in... hot garbage.

    I wish I could say that BLM needs nerfs, but really what needs to happen is SMN not being nerfed.
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  8. #68
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    I completely agree with that,

    Honestly I too like the BLM changes, and they were very needed. I admit, once I got the hang of it I actually liked maintaining the Enochian cycle... but... I can see why some did not. And being able to repeatedly rip off Fire IVs now without worrying about it expiring anymore is great. It was like repeated single target Deathflares once you got the hang of it (admittedly the damage was higher).

    And now you can actually move to avoid something, and still cast Fire IVs.

    Throw in the idea of Quad Flares, and the Thunder now AoE, heck Foul was just icing at that point.

    The Rich Chocolate vs Hot Garbage analogy really does bring it into perspective.

    The only good addition was the Bahamut, and you only get that for 20 seconds every 3 minutes... the rest was either nerfed or removed. So unless something drastically changes at launch... well...
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  9. #69
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Smns who have the highest utility of the caster classes whining about personal dps not being as over powered as it was.

    Oh no you cant do over tuned as hell AoE on top of near blm level single target with better mobility anymore oh the agony of not being op as hell.

    You have ST and a strong raid syngery that 1 of them affects all casters in the group and the other for 1 target to , unlike drgs 10% buff to self and 5% to another, buffs them by 5% and reduces the damage they take by 5%.

    Ifrit has a mini hyper charge


    Youre effectively the caster version of bard except more damage, caster parties MUST take you unless they are blind and stupid.

    Woe is you.
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  10. #70
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    You seem to have confused... Bard with Summoner...
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