Smn is not getting the most nerfs though. HW blm aoe was nerfed as was other spells, Sb we are getting Fire 2 nerfed.
I honestly think all 3 jobs, Red, blm and smn will be close to each other damage wise, granted Red Mage aoe sounds like it will be on the low end, even behind SAM...
People like to cry and argue when none has had enough time with the jobs yet. Everyone is going by what those fortunate enough to try the jobs at the conference but it is certainly as hell not enough to say oh this job sucks, bleh bleh. When people actually are able to level the jobs and run actual content, then and only then we can see real results