How's BLM looking?

[Cynfael]

So it may be just the old rotation + Fowl if it's up.

This has nothing to do with anything, but it makes me giggle a little whenever I see that slip. I rather imagine the target being assailed with a massive roast turkey.

[Silverquick]

I completely agree with that,

Honestly I too like the BLM changes, and they were very needed. I admit, once I got the hang of it I actually liked maintaining the Enochian cycle... but... I can see why some did not. And being able to repeatedly rip off Fire IVs now without worrying about it expiring anymore is great. It was like repeated single target Deathflares once you got the hang of it (admittedly the damage was higher).

And now you can actually move to avoid something, and still cast Fire IVs.

Throw in the idea of Quad Flares, and the Thunder now AoE, heck Foul was just icing at that point.

The Rich Chocolate vs Hot Garbage analogy really does bring it into perspective.

The only good addition was the Bahamut, and you only get that for 20 seconds every 3 minutes... the rest was either nerfed or removed. So unless something drastically changes at launch... well...

[Psycofang]

Smns who have the highest utility of the caster classes whining about personal dps not being as over powered as it was.

Oh no you cant do over tuned as hell AoE on top of near blm level single target with better mobility anymore oh the agony of not being op as hell.

You have ST and a strong raid syngery that 1 of them affects all casters in the group and the other for 1 target to , unlike drgs 10% buff to self and 5% to another, buffs them by 5% and reduces the damage they take by 5%.

Ifrit has a mini hyper charge


Youre effectively the caster version of bard except more damage, caster parties MUST take you unless they are blind and stupid.

Woe is you.

[EllieShadeflare]

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Youre effectively the caster version of bard except more damage, caster parties MUST take you unless they are blind and stupid.

Woe is you.

Okay, let's disseminate this, one by one.

Smns who have the highest utility of the caster classes whining about personal dps not being as over powered as it was.

Citation needed. Our only utility was access to Virus and Eye for an Eye, and you're usually gonna have a Scholar in your party who can E4E better than you anyway. Plus, we lost those, so whoops. There goes THAT. And I'd like to direct you to Black Mages, who in battles without the greatest of movement (which Alexander: The Creator and the most recent surge of dungeons have reimplemented) cut through bosses like hot knives in butter.

Also the 1000 character limit is kinda dumb, so I'll have continue in a few more posts.

[IllyriaKnotfred]

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Citation needed. Our only utility was access to Virus and Eye for an Eye, and you're usually gonna have a Scholar in your party who can E4E better than you anyway.

You lost all credibility with anything you say due to not mentioning summoners have BATTLE REZ as utility. Unless by 'citation' you were asking for clarification on your knowledge of said things.

[EllieShadeflare]

You lost all credibility with anything you say due to not mentioning summoners have BATTLE REZ as utility.

My apologies, I forgot about something that was a form of utility for SMN, despite it being done better by Red Mages. My bad! That's only one more thing to the mostly selfish moveset of Summoner, but it'll certainly be mentioned in the next post.

[Silverquick]

You seem to have confused... Bard with Summoner...

[EllieShadeflare]

Oh no you cant do over tuned as hell AoE on top of near blm level single target with better mobility anymore oh the agony of not being op as hell.

By mobility for single target, you mean DoTs/Ruin II, the latter of which does far crappier damage than Fire IV, Fester which is a oGCD, of which we can only do 3 times per minute? Our pet KINDA helps and our "utility" was either selfish or Radiant Shield or the situational Resurrection? As for our AoEs, BLMs have better burst through Fire IIs that they can cast as much as they'd like, versus our Painflares of which we only get three (seeing a bit of a pattern with our more powerful abilities), their nuke, Flare, versus our Deathflare and its paltry 400 potency every minute. All we get to edge over you, is Shadow Flare and Bane. With Stormblood, all of our damage was shot and our AoE identity removed. But why should Summoners complain, Black Mage gets Quad Flare, Foul, and Thunder IV, the last of which can proc with Thundercloud.

[Silverquick]

That is true too...

Summoner already has a Support class side... its the Scholar. Especially since you automatically get both at the same level once unlocked.

That's who actually uses those things.By the time you get to 60th as a Summoner... pretty much all your utility is weak at best. I think Resurrection is the only utility left by that point. Physick is way too pathetic to use as a Summoner.

Scholar utility though... that gets stronger and stronger.

But then again the Scholar is the healing/utility side of Arcanist... Summoner is the DPS side of Arcanist... you pick one or the other depending on what you like best.

Having two support jobs spring out of Arcanist is pointless.

[EllieShadeflare]

You have ST and a strong raid syngery that 1 of them affects all casters in the group and the other for 1 target to , unlike drgs 10% buff to self and 5% to another, buffs them by 5% and reduces the damage they take by 5%.

Eye for an Eye and Virus are gone. Like, literally gone for Summoners. At best we get Addle, the Mage side of Virus, and the other one was given to Melee DPS. Meanwhile, Devotion, our new utility no longer buffs the party and only the person closest to the pet. Contagion is a poor man's Foe's Requiem/Bishop Hypercharge and...

Ifrit has a mini hyper charge

Oh! Thanks for reminding me that Ifrit's Radiant Shield was loaded on with a 2% vulnerability debuff, like a crappy Rook Hypercharge. Now we'll never see Garuda again except in almost-all Caster parties, or in a party with 2 SMNs... but who'd take SMN SMN in a serious raid, due to party bonus penalties?