How's BLM looking?

[Silverquick]

Yeah Enochian does work a little bit differently...

Its still the same basic principle, do your Fire III, the hit Enochian, then hit Fire 4s with the Fire I on occasion to refresh your stacks quick, then Bliz 3, Bliz 4, then F3 back to F4s.

I just didn't think you'd have to turn it on first, I had thought it was supposed to be always on.

Still no timer for expiration anymore, just maintaining your stacks.

[Ferrasper]

Yeah Enochian does work a little bit differently...

Its still the same basic principle, do your Fire III, the hit Enochian, then hit Fire 4s with the Fire I on occasion to refresh your stacks quick, then Bliz 3, Bliz 4, then F3 back to F4s.

I just didn't think you'd have to turn it on first, I had thought it was supposed to be always on.

Still no timer for expiration anymore, just maintaining your stacks.

Actually, look at how Umbral hearts work, it is best to do bliz3, eno-chan, thunder 3, bliz 4, fire 3 (sharpcast seems to remove enochian atm it seems for me), fire 4 to use the umbral hearts up, fire 1 where you should have 3 seconds left. After that, I am not sure whether or not to continue doing fire 4s and fire 1 to keep Astril fire 3 up until you have no mana left. convert is obviously in there as well.

[Silverquick]

Actually, look at how Umbral hearts work, it is best to do bliz3, eno-chan, thunder 3, bliz 4, fire 3 (sharpcast seems to remove enochian atm it seems for me), fire 4 to use the umbral hearts up, fire 1 where you should have 3 seconds left. After that, I am not not to continue doing fire 4s and fire 1 to keep Astril fire 3 up until you have no mana left. convert is obviously in there as well.

I did try that, its surprisingly effective.

[BillyKaplan]

Transpose wiping Enochian is likely because of latency, what with the servers being under as much pressure as they are. The best thing to do would be to not wait until the very last second to swap. Granted, that's still not a guarantee, but do what we can, right?

Honestly, I kind of misunderstood how Enochian would work when we heard the news and I have to say I'm kind of disappointed with the actual implementation. For exactly such reasons as stated above, it's actually harder for me now to maintain it than before. Before, if Astral Fire dropped, I still had a window of opportunity to get into Umbral Ice and refresh Enochian. There were diminishing returns on the refresh timer, true, but Enochian staying up regardless of AF/UI actually made it a lot more forgiving, imo.
Nothing a little practice won't solve, and because of the disconnections I've focused more on my crafting than my battle classes so it's still at level 60, but still.

[Waliel]

Fun fact: both T3 and F4 have exactly the same PPS at 163,8 with base cast times.

[Underlord]

When u do bliz4, u get those 3 stacks (arrows). Which decrease mp cost of f4 tremendously. So although not best way, I cast fire 3, then fire 4, 3 times then back to bliz3, 4...thunder, back to fire. I know I can get another fire 4,with fire 1 to add to Astral timer. But just easier and reliable not to, so I can keep Enoch going.. Once the lag goes away, I'll see about adding that extra fire. But at least the way I'm doing it, I can keep up Enoch forever... And at least if something bad was to happen during that, and lost Enoch, I still have a decent amount of mp left.

[MagiusNecros]

Umbral Heart lets you get off 5 F2 before Flare so that's cool I guess.

[Shiroe]

1st you can not cast three Flares without convert or a portion, as soon as you flare you lose all the umbra the hearts

2nd smn can double Akmorn

smn and blm will over be very close (besides the pet does damage too), depending on the fight; either smn or blm can come out on top

smn is far less broken than some are suggesting and blm got nerfed too

[Vallhallix]

I'm not entirely sure SMN and BLM will be neck and neck. I mean my SMN is just 64 now, but my RDM at 52 (with the same strength/weapon level) is incredibly burstier in potd. Having all RDMs or atleast 2 has made for the fastest potd runs and boss kills from 51-100. Knowing what it could be like at 60-70 I think there might be more competition between RDM and BLM than with SMN. I'm not 100% yet, but after seeing what RDM is capable of, SMN may need a buff. In potd you have to use tri-disaster all 3 stacks and deathflare to kill one enemy as fast as RDM.

[Silverquick]

I'm not entirely sure SMN and BLM will be neck and neck. I mean my SMN is just 64 now, but my RDM at 52 (with the same strength/weapon level) is incredibly burstier in potd. Having all RDMs or atleast 2 has made for the fastest potdruns and boss kills from 51-100. Knowing what it could be like at 60-70 I think there might be more competition between RDM and BLM than with SMN. I'm not 100% yet, but after seeing what RDM is capable of, SMN may need a buff. In potd you have to use tri-disaster all 3 stacks and deathflare to kill one enemy as fast as RDM.

Yeah SMN isn't really competitive anymore, but we all knew that from the Tooltips before launch. And playing the thing afterward... It was predictable.

Red Mage shocked me... I did a dungeon run with it through Hullbreaker. I was thinking it was single target only type job too... but Scatter is dual casted its just powerful. At those levels I was burning through multiple mobs the same way I did as BLM with F2s and Flare. I didn't expect that.

I still think BLM will come out on top in Single Target, but now that I've played it, but the fast speedy damage the Red Mage does may well approach it. I did some PoTD too, and my experience was the same as yours.

While I don't have RDM to the same level as BLM and its not really geared at this point... these two are very competitive with each other.