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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Yay psy and I are the same person, your arguments are to tough for me and my follower xserver fc that I use 2 accs now - cmn really? xD
    Im more curious where your blm buddy with a postcounter of 16 came out of nowhere claiming the same bs u do since weeks.... *mystery*

    You two are really funny guys :3
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    Last edited by Neela; 06-16-2017 at 02:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    Im more curious where your blm buddy with a postcounter of 16 came out of nowhere claiming the same bs u do since weeks.... *mystery* You two are really funny guys :3
    Well since you obviously have no idea of writing style... or where they come from or why it looks that way...

    The person you are talking about has a very distinctive writing style you can only find in specific places. Its called Broadcast writing style, its used in TV and Radio and/or script writing.

    Very distinctive... I don't normally bold anything but I was impressed with their usage of it.

    So... why... do... I... use... ellipsis... and you never see anyone else doing it. It indicates an intentional pause.

    It's used in TV and Radio copy to distinguish the words making it easier for the on air personality to read the copy.

    I could tell that person you are referring to is obviously either trained in broadcasting or perhaps script writing.

    Obvious to me... not so obvious to you apparently.
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    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    (just another sensless irrelevant bla)
    It's really cute if you try to sound serious darling that makes me smile even more - never the less i must admit that it's hard for me telling you that our deep bond of love is coming to an end... you sucked in HW and most probably will suck in SB. So i do as well giving everybody a hard time following our discussions (if it can be called "discussion" at all...). Bugging people and peoples opinions i actually respect just because your attitude drove my crazy with every single post you wrote. I truely have to apologize to the comm for that. I dont wanna end up like you ingame without friends/fc/static nor like a joke in this forum - without any selfreflection... so ya im sry for all the trouble, my emphathy was kinda low and selfish the last days because it was so much fun seeing a fail after another on your side - but i didnt notice that this behavior made myself look like as dumb and weakminded as you are... with the difference to know when it's actually enough - even for me. And this is right now.

    Some people just stay dumb, ego and weakminded no matter what... and those deserve to live in stupidity their whole life - wish you all the best.
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    Maintaining Enochian was never the hard part about 3.0 BLM, maintaining Astral Fire was. Very little has changed in that regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semmi View Post
    Maintaining Enochian was never the hard part about 3.0 BLM, maintaining Astral Fire was. Very little has changed in that regard.
    Actually I'm not so sure about that,

    In heavy mechanics or movement fights I don't and can't even use Enochian. The other day I decided to just refresh a bit since I haven't been playing much over the last few days.

    So I just did an Expert Roulette. Went really smooth through Baelsar's Wall, destroyed the other boss mobs like they were nothing... but then came the Ilberd fight... It was so bad I stopped even trying after a certain point and just ran with normal BLM damage with Fire I's and Procs.

    And that doesn't even include some of the really intensive stuff like Sophia Ex or some of the Alex Raids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    Actually I'm not so sure about that,

    In heavy mechanics or movement fights I don't and can't even use Enochian. The other day I decided to just refresh a bit since I haven't been playing much over the last few days.

    So I just did an Expert Roulette. Went really smooth through Baelsar's Wall, destroyed the other boss mobs like they were nothing... but then came the Ilberd fight... It was so bad I stopped even trying after a certain point and just ran with normal BLM damage with Fire I's and Procs.

    And that doesn't even include some of the really intensive stuff like Sophia Ex or some of the Alex Raids.
    That says more about your skill level than anything. I use my SMN gear when I play BLM (sub-600 SS after factoring in different weapon) and could maintain Enochian in savage raids and extreme primals without much issue. Even back when all we had was Gordias, I never found Enochian hard to manage with mechanics. The harder thing was making sure not to let Astral Fire drop off while handling mechanics because I was trying to squeeze out Fire 4s.
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    Flare got nerfed to the ground.

    Deals fire damage to a target and all enemies nearby it with a potency of 260 for the first enemy, 15% less for the second, 30% less for the third, 45% less for the fouth, 60% less for the fifth, and 70% less for all remaining enemies.
    Additional Effect: Grants Astral Fire III and removes Umbral Ice
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    Well if it had a point Greedalox... it would have been different... but it didn't.

    It never achieved anything in the end, and it was completely pointless. BLM was just fine where it was. There was no need to nerf Flare.

    In fact if they hadn't done that, it would have ended up closer to SMN anyway.

    All it did achieve was a bunch of torqued off BLMs and people running to SMN.

    And in the end it didn't make a damn bit of difference.

    I understand what you're trying to say... but these things they're doing aren't achieving anything but the opposite of what they intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post

    I understand what you're trying to say... but these things they're doing aren't achieving anything but the opposite of what they intended.
    How so? You're trying to make it sound like the only balance measurement needed is SMN vs BLM when it's SMN vs BLM vs MCH vs BRD vs DRG and so on. When your only unit of measurement is 2 classes out of the the dynamics of every class in the game of course your view is going to be skewed. I'm sure SE's though process involves a bit than "Today we want BLM to be worse than SMN- so lets do that." and more of a question on a classes role in composition.

    You can pretend all you want that there's never a need to tone something down even in the situation that the toning down needs to be pulled back, but welcome to online gaming with a many class based system. You're going to have ups and downs, ebb and flows, nerfs and buffs. Pointless or not it exists and isn't going away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    How so? You're trying to make it sound like the only balance measurement needed is SMN vs BLM when it's SMN vs BLM vs MCH vs BRD vs DRG and so on. When your only unit of measurement is 2 classes out of the the dynamics of every class in the game of course your view is going to be skewed.
    I'm only comparing BLM and SMN because they are the two magical DPS classes...
    If the problems is balance between magical DPS jobs and melee DPS jobs... that's a different kind of balance, but something like that affects both jobs... you don't totally rewrite one of them and nerf it and then boost the other one... that's not balancing Magical DPS jobs against Melee DPS jobs... its balancing them against each other.

    But there's more...

    'm sure SE's though process involves a bit than "Today we want BLM to be worse than SMN- so lets do that." and more of a question on a classes role in composition.
    Why exactly would someone do that?

    Did it ever occur to you that's more like a bait and switch... sell them one thing, then snatch it and replace it with something completely different?

    And you never thought that was going to torque people off or make them abandon the job they were playing because... that was never what they wanted to play in the first place?

    .....or just cause more imbalances than it fixes? Like the Flare Nerf in 3.0?

    That's not balance my friend... nor is it somehow stopping "power creep".

    It's just pointless rearranging for the sake of rearranging.
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