4 Man Balance =/= 8 Man Balance

[Cynfael]

In years of playing this game, admittedly more on-and-off since 3.x, I have never personally witnessed any Job being kicked from a 4-man duty simply for being that Job.

Typically players are just glad that someone accepted the damned queue notification and get on with it.

[KDSilver]

Meta is for real hardcore gamers and speed kills.

Square has tried to design jobs so that as long as you have at least different jobs, they can all beat the content.
So the "meta" will indeed have more facility to beat it because it has been made to be optimal (for both defensive and offensive utility) BUT
Every jobs can do it.

So unless you're in a hardcore static, you will not experience kick to be a specific job as long as you're doing your job correctly.

[KDSilver]

Same as Cynfael, and even in 8-man duty.
There are rare pf that ask for an optimal team.

Edit : But honestly, why would they kick people for being a job on 4 man content?
Dungeons are easy, there's absolutely no need to rely on meta for it.

As long as everyone is doing fine... who cares.

I'm wondering why you are thinking this.
Where did you read it could happen.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

As someone who has been fairly active in criticising White Mage, you're a damn fool worrying about "meta" for dungeons. None of this is taking into account White Mage is probably the best healer for dungeon, it just straight up is irrelevant. You can make a case with Savage because job synergy can be a factor. Dungeons? No one cares.

[Mahkii]

Thanks for the feedback guys, but keep in mind this post isn't for me. It's for the people worried about being kicked.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Thanks for the feedback guys, but keep in mind this post isn't for me. It's for the people worried about being kicked.

That's the thing NO ONE is worried about being kicked from dungeons for this reason, as it has never happened or will it ever happen.

Balance

By any chance did you only read the topic title?

[Sylvain]

I've never seen anyone kicked from a dungeon for having a none supportive job...
I mean... you must be some kind of insane elitist jerk to kick someone of a dungeon for not having the job you wish them to have. (especially considering how easy dungeons are)

And anyway, any potential dps gained from getting the job you want will be lost since you'll have to wait a good 1-2 min to get a replacement and another 2-3 min for the replacement to catch up the group. And that's assuming you don't get the same or a "worse" job.
That's going through a lot of trouble for a very minimal and (especially) useless reward...
At most having the perfect aoe / monotarget balanced group will reduce the dungeon duration by what? 5-10min?

[bounddreamer]

I have never seen a kick or even discussion of a kick for players not having optimal composition in a 4-person party.

I have seen players suggest big pulls for aoe friendly party comps, and I've refused to pull big when I don't have an aoe friendly party comp, but that's about it.

[Ayer2015]

Do that many people really kick is the real question I have... On here people make it seem as though its happening all the time, yet I rarely ever see it occur in my groups unless the person is afk/offline.
What I don't get is how my experience is so different from what others make out.

[Elamys]

Do that many people really kick is the real question I have... On here people make it seem as though its happening all the time, yet I rarely ever see it occur in my groups unless the person is afk/offline.
What I don't get is how my experience is so different from what others make out.

I've had the exact same experience, as have many of my friends - I rarely hear stories of people getting kicked for their behavior, even less for an unjustified one. It's nothing more than dramatics (or the people complaining about being kicked all the time not realizing that they're the reason.)